I am still not satisfied with the Yamal data from NORAD. As of this date, the comsat elements have not been updated. However the Blcok-D HAS entered geosynch orbit, so it should be assumed that the 2 Yamals have, as well. What I want know is, how can NORAD generate separate elements for the Yamals while they are still attached to the Block-D? ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillip Clark <psclark@dircon.co.uk> To: David Anderman <danderman@constellationservices.com> Cc: <SeeSat-L@blackadder.lmsal.com> Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 10:20 AM Subject: Re: Yamal satellites > On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, David Anderman wrote: > > I notice that there isn't any new data on the 2 recent Yamal comsats from > > the Air Force. The initial data indicated that these were in 52 degree 12 > > hours elliptical orbits, and had not maneuvered into their final orbit. Now, > > reports are that one is in trouble, which could mean that it won't go into > > its final orbits. > > Is it common for new public objects like these to remain un-updated for some > > time? > > Don't call out Scully and Mulder yet ! > > The latest data show the Blok DM-2M in its geosynch drift orbit, so that's > where the satellites are. > > If you check the GTO data you will see that the orbits for A, B and E from > the launch are identical. USSPACECOM had simply "lost" the satellites > and this orbit was the preliminary search one. With the DM-2M now found, > I expect that real orbits for the satellites will soon appear (if they > have not already). > > Phillip Clark > >