Thanks to Quinn for posting the Launch Visibility Info. Observed the V-shaped contrail at T+7:40 for about 10-15 secs at Az ~140 deg and El ~5-6 deg. It was about a -2 to -3 mag about 10-15 arc-minutes in length (given that a full moon is 30 arc-minutes). It went behind a tree in my field of view but I could still see brief flickers of light. Just as it should have emerged from behind the tree it disappeared from view (T+8:30 and Main Engine Cut Off - MECO). @#!$ tree. Observed Mir at 06:20 EDT (10:20 UTC) 26 September. Easily a -2 mag. At 10:21:55 it passed just below beta-Orion. STS-86 was supposed to pass just above Saturn at 10:31:30 UTC. I could not observe it, probably due to too much light (although Saturn was visible until; 10:36 UTC). -- Don Gardner Homepage - http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/9787/ 76.8419 W, 39.1796 N, 37m ASL