In between fields of clouds I could do some observations. The 97- 30 Iridia made passes almost overhead and didnot show flashes. I saw one of the recently launched 'dummy' Iridia; not quite sure which one I saw but most certainly it was 97- 48 F. 70- 25CD 97-09-05 20:35:31 LB 38.2 0.1 20 1.91 FF, mag 4->inv 80- 3 B 97-09-05 01:31:43 LB 141.5 0.5 2 70.7 AA, mag 5->inv 87- 18 A 97-09-05 20:14:18 LB 58.7 0.5 3 19.6 'Afff'A, mag 4->inv 88- 62 B 97-09-05 01:08 LB S, mag 5 92- 76 B 97-09-05 20:40:01 LB 112.0 1.0 3 37.3 MM, mag 3->6 93- 55 C 97-09-05 01:11 LB S, mag 6 95- 72 C 97-09-05 21:05 LB almost S, mag 4 97- 30 A 97-09-05 21:09 LB almost S, mag 5 97- 30 B 97-09-05 20:51 LB S, mag 6 97- 30 D 97-09-05 20:29 LB S, mag 6 97- 30 E 97-09-05 23:00 LB S, mag 6 97- 48 F 97-09-05 20:09 LB S, mag 6, or 97- 48 B? Greetings and clear skies ----------------------------------------------- Leo Barhorst Alkmaar The Netherlands 52.65 North 4.77 East 3 m asl ----------------------------------------------- Every day I wonder about what I see in the sky