> From: thomsona@netcom.com (Allen Thomson) > Subject: Mir resolved in shadow?? > TRAKSAT Version 2.80 > Tracking Station: PROVO, UT, USA > [ Line Of Sight (LOS) Visibility ] > [Y in the last column indicates Mir was in direct sunlight, > N indicates it had passed into the Earth's shadow.] > 1 16609U 95238.15420642 .00002456 39708-4 0 2693 > 2 16609 51.6459 167.3971 0003174 32.5065 327.6121 15.57289705543838 > Date Time (UTC) Azim Elev Range Ra Dec Alt V > HR:MN:Sec Deg Deg Km HH:MM:SS DD:MM:SS Km > Sun 27Aug95 04:50:00.0 318.61 21.72 927.71 12:42:19 +50:25:30 399 Y QuickSat says Mir was over 50 km and 20-some seconds into the shadow by the time (4h50m8s) that TS thought it was no longer visible. This is one of many known deficiencies in TS. However, in this case, it does not affect your argument. I guess I have two reservations about this identification. One, it seems that it would be quite difficult to see a shape in a silhouette of a figure as small as Mir from the ground. Two, is it logical to believe that someone capable of correctly converting VIT (village idiot time) into UTC would describe the ESE horizon as the southern? I think we may need to know more. It is an interesting idea, to be sure; I might have guessed experimental military aircraft. --- Here is the latest OIG elset for Pageos DA 1 05994U 63014DA 95248.83789368 .04284649 16092-2 22818+0 0 8829 2 05994 83.7225 226.8861 2726460 135.1914 250.4701 9.88216807191021 Cheers. Walter Nissen dk058@cleveland.freenet.edu 216-243-4980 --- First of all things was chaos; and next broad-bosomed Earth. Hesiod