We now have size and mass for all of the payloads, so their dispersion can be seen at: http://celestrak.com/events/2013-055-3D-1.gif Positions relative to the TLE provided by Dr. Langley and OBJECT B can be seen here: http://celestrak.com/events/2013-055-3D-2.gif And finally, since someone asked for a Gabbard plot, that can be found at: http://celestrak.com/events/2013-055-Gabbard.pdf It doesn't seem to suggest an explosion. Here's hoping we get a much clearer picture soon! - TS Dr. T.S. Kelso CelesTrak, http://celestrak.com E-Mail: TS.Kelso@celestrak.com On 2013-10-01 12:21, Jonathan McDowell wrote: > We don't know where to look for the second stage - it may have had an > impulse of unknown magnitude > so could be any of A to V -one might guess A as it would be the easy > thing to track. > B is probably CASSIOPE > Perhaps ALL of C to V are second stage insulation debris, and the other > payloads - POPACS, DANDE, CUSAT - have not yet been cataloged at all, and will > only be spotted once they are far enough separated from CASSIOPE to be > distinguishable! > > > On 1 October 2013 18:09, Dr. T.S. Kelso <TS.Kelso@celestrak.com> wrote: >> For those of you who might be interested, the image at: >> >> http://celestrak.com/events/2013-055-3D-3.gif >> >> shows where we are right now. The POPACS orbits (green) are based on >> SpaceX state vectors at deployment and where we know the masses and >> sizes to calculate the orbits. The CASSIOPE TLE Dr. Langley provided is >> in blue. The yellow orbits are based on SpaceX deployment state vectors >> and public information on the drag characteristics (size and mass) for >> CASSIOPE and DANDE (we're working to get that for CUSAT). We do not have >> deployment velocities or any post-deployment maneuver info (only CUSAT >> looks to be maneuverable). These objects are all tracking close to >> OBJECT B. >> >> However, you can see that the remaining 19 objects are scattered all >> around the orbit plane. Something isn't adding up. I provide this >> information to hopefully help others sort through the possibilities. - TS >> >> Dr. T.S. Kelso >> CelesTrak, http://celestrak.com >> E-Mail: TS.Kelso@celestrak.com >> >> On 2013-10-01 08:08, Jonathan McDowell wrote: >>> This is pretty close to the object being tracked as 2013-055B 39266 >>> >>> On 1 October 2013 09:57, Richard B. Langley <lang@unb.ca> wrote: >>>> CASSIOPE >>>> 1 99999U 99999Z 13272.64230504 .00074327 00000-0 25352-2 0 00004 >>>> 2 99999 080.9958 315.2504 0800469 157.7147 206.1636 13.95988889000018 >>>> >>>>> Richard Langley wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If anybody wants TLEs for CASSIOPE (the main payload on the Falcon 9), I have them from >>>>>> spacecraft tracking. I can send them directly or post them to the list if that is >>>>>> permissible. >>>>> It is permissible, provided that the TLEs did not originate at USSTRATCOM (which operates the Space Track site). >>>>> >>>>> Ted Molczan >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> | Richard B. Langley E-mail: lang@unb.ca | >>>> | Geodetic Research Laboratory Web: http://www.unb.ca/GGE/ | >>>> | Dept. of Geodesy and Geomatics Engineering Phone: +1 506 453-5142 | >>>> | University of New Brunswick Fax: +1 506 453-4943 | >>>> | Fredericton, N.B., Canada E3B 5A3 | >>>> | Fredericton? Where's that? See: http://www.fredericton.ca/ | >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Seesat-l mailing list >>>> http://mailman.satobs.org/mailman/listinfo/seesat-l >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Seesat-l mailing list >>> http://mailman.satobs.org/mailman/listinfo/seesat-l >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Seesat-l mailing list >> http://mailman.satobs.org/mailman/listinfo/seesat-l > > _______________________________________________ Seesat-l mailing list http://mailman.satobs.org/mailman/listinfo/seesat-l
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