Re: Ang: Re: UNID (NROL?)

From: k4hsm@knology.net
Date: Fri Oct 08 2010 - 04:02:50 UTC

  • Next message: Scott Campbell: "Satobs 8 Oct 2010"

    It was moving to the SSW, the times were when my daughter first spotted it and I stopped observing through binoculars as it was getting towards the horizon (it was somewhat hazy, but clear sky).
    
    The times are approximate.
    
    It was moving at a speed relative to a LEO, roughly 750-1000km in altitude. Not as fast as ISS or HST, but about the speed of a Cosmos rocket body in polar orbit or NOSS sats.
    
    No tracks on Calsky matched up with the bird. Due to the haze, it was hard to gauge the period due in part also to the different magnitudes with which it was appearing.  I went down to Mag 8 on Calsky, with nothing relative to it's location.
    
    My daughter spotted it with the naked eye, and it was then confirmed by my brother who was with us. It was overhead and to the WSW at about 80 degrees altitude as they spotted it moving SSW at 11:24ET/0324Z last Saturday night/Sunday morning.
    
    I kept making sure it was not an airplane. No strobes, contrails, changes in direction, etc.
    
    It passed between Cygnus and Pegasus.
    
    I appreciate the effort.
    
    Greg
    K4HSM@knology.net
    
    
     On Thu 07/10/10  2:51 PM , Björn Gimle bg_26934@glocalnet.net sent:
    > 
    > I should have written "to the SSW" !
    > 
    > But in essence, it is less relevant for identification to estimate in what
    > compass direction it may be heading for the horizon -
    > much more relevant is the direction (and speed) of motion in the immediate
    > vicinity of where you observe the object.
    > Most easy (for naked eye or binocular obs) is relative to a vertical line,
    > e.g. like on a clock face or correspondingly in degrees, ie 3 o'clock is 90 degrees (to
    > the right, horizontally), in other cases (telescope?) relative to a line between a
    > pair of stars.
    > >----Original message----
    > ...
    > >Did you see it move straight down to the SSE, or at
    > an angle, or could it have been >geostationary?
    > >Did you watch it for four minutes, or is this the
    > time uncertainty?>Do you have any stellar references?
    > >If you saw it move, how much in what length of time?
    > (a fists width, a pair of stars...)
    > >Did you see ANY tracks on CalSky? At that time and
    > latitude, no LEOs are visible in the 
    > >SSW.
    > >If you compare to CalSky objects (if any) was its
    > motion parallell to (left or right) or 
    > >at some angle?
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    
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