----- Original Message ----- From: Torben Noerup Nielsen <torben@net.Hawaii.Edu> To: Bruno Tilgner <Bruno_Tilgner@compuserve.com>; <SeeSat-L@blackadder.lmsal.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 01:12 AM Subject: Re: Visible Satellite Observations... > > > > >While eclipsed, their radiation is mainly in the infrared. So you would > >need an infrared telescope on a high mountaintop. > > I can deal with the high mountaintop. A real infrared telescope is a good > deal harder due to the cost of the infrared arrays. > > > >If you want to do daytime observations, you need a radar installation. > >For nighttime observations photographic recordings (perhaps a modern > >version of the Baker-Nunn camera) will give you accurate positions if > >you can record the surrounding starfield, time marks and if you have > >the necessary astrometric correction software (the easiest part). > Well, that's what I was wondering about. According to the pictures at > http://www.skyshow.com, it is indeed possible to get visual images during > the daytime. I just haven't gotten enough information to know if I can get > detection with a single image which is what I need since I want to record > the position accurately. Daytime detection and imaging of satellites in the visible and near to mid IR is certainly possible. Whether you can get the positional accuracies you need, I don't know, but two possibly useful references (there are probably others) are: "Ground-based electrooptical detection of artificial satellites in daylight from reflected sunlight " by E. Rork, S. Lin, A. Yakutis Lincoln Laboratory, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 1982 'Porog obnaruzheniia ISZ na dnevnom nebe' [Satellite detection threshold in the daytime sky] by B. Davydov Kosmicheskie Issledovaniia, Vol. 28, Sept.-Oct. 1990 [I believe this appears in an English translation journal, but I don't have the exact reference.] If I remember aright, the basic conclusion in both is that fairly straightforward daytime video detection can be done on satellites down to visual magnitude 8 or so, and I'd assume that applies to field stars too, maybe a bit brighter if you're tracking the satellite. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe from SeeSat-L by sending a message with 'unsubscribe' in the SUBJECT to SeeSat-L-request@lists.satellite.eu.org http://www2.satellite.eu.org/seesat/seesatindex.html