Against the predictions I posted here yesterday, the PAS 8 Proton rocket object was running all of 3 minutes early at the epoch of the latest elset: PAS 8 Proton r 161 x 143 km 1 25523U 98065B 98309.73548376 .08874335 00000-0 20417-3 0 195 2 25523 51.6012 122.0038 0013111 269.7784 90.2433 16.45232663 256 My latest estimate is for decay at November 6.04 +-0.1d. New prediction: PAS 8 Proton r 150 x 137 km 1 25523U 98065B 98309.85681636 .16135288 23362+0 21379-3 0 90193 2 25523 51.6003 121.3107 0010162 270.2968 89.5868 16.48556472 274 PAS 8 Proton r 143 x 132 km 1 25523U 98065B 98309.91739578 .21976152 48077+0 20502-3 0 90195 2 25523 51.5997 120.9633 0008305 270.5566 89.3482 16.50823459 283 PAS 8 Proton r 132 x 124 km 1 25523U 98065B 98309.97787567 .37207192 16665+1 21203-3 0 90198 2 25523 51.5988 120.6151 0005894 270.8170 89.1154 16.54217328 290 --------------------- The Pegasus rocket that launched Orbcomm 21...28 is also nearing decay, due at November 7.6 +-0.5d by my calculation. The latest elset is... Orbc21 Pegasus r 1.3 1.0 0.0 7.0 d 247 x 189 km 1 25483U 98053J 98309.70869053 .02531692 00000-0 95199-3 0 1114 2 25483 44.9593 336.0941 0044386 42.7740 317.7238 16.20608912 6915 ...and my prediction: Orbc21 Pegasus r 1.3 1.0 0.0 7.0 d 239 x 186 km 1 25483U 98053J 98310.01663416 .03441212 56297-2 11192-2 0 91114 2 25483 44.9588 334.1606 0040601 44.8282 315.4991 16.22677360 6967 Orbc21 Pegasus r 1.3 1.0 0.0 7.0 d 224 x 180 km 1 25483U 98053J 98310.50851274 .04646786 11510-1 11274-2 0 91112 2 25483 44.9578 331.0593 0033685 48.1232 312.1637 16.26586213 7044 Orbc21 Pegasus r 1.3 1.0 0.0 7.0 d 199 x 168 km 1 25483U 98053J 98311.06014047 .08348926 44136-1 11274-2 0 91112 2 25483 44.9560 327.5558 0023632 51.8457 308.3668 16.33311097 7132 This enters the Earth's shadow at about 18:00 local time near the northbound equator crossing and leaves eclipse while southbound near 26 deg N at 05:30 local time. Alan -- Alan Pickup | COSPAR 2707: 55d53m48.7s N 3d11m51.2s W 156m asl Edinburgh | Home: alan@wingar.demon.co.uk +44 (0)131 477 9144 Scotland | SatEvo page: http://www.wingar.demon.co.uk/satevo/