Thanks Alan, for posting the elements for the Mars Pathfinder rocket. As Don Gardner pointed out, there are some morning passes for it that will be visible from the U.S.. Here in central California, I have a near-zenith pass coming up at around 06:33 PST (14:33 UT) Thursday morning in strong twilight, a low unlit pass in the south Friday morning close to 4:30 PST, and a pass only 2 degrees from the zenith at about 6:02 PST on the next orbit, if it survives that long. Some of the places where there are dusk/dawn viewing opportunities before re-entry are, in order of occurence: New Zealand, Australia, US east coast, south-central US, US west coast, S. Africa, Japan, eastern China, central China, northern Argentina, the Himalayan region, Chile, Iran, Turkey, southern Europe, parts of N. Africa, Portugal, and Australia. What might be the final orbit will have nighttime passes over Australia, Hawaii, the US southwest, and midwest. I noticed that the U.S. passes occur at or near apogee. The perigee passes are occuring in the s. hemisphere, near lat -23S. The difference between apogee and perigee using Alan's final elset is 31km (19 statue miles). I don't know if that's enough difference to make it more likely that re-entry will occur in the s. hemisphere. An aside: I included some of the more 'exotic' locations above just in case there's a lurker out there we don't know about. Sometimes I wonder if we have any Seesat subscribers in locations other than N. America, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, S. Africa, and Japan. Are there subscribers in South or Central America, Africa (outside of S. Africa), mainland Asia, or across the seas on some far-flung island like Diego Garcia? Maybe not, but if so, don't be shy! Craig Cholar 3432P@VM1.CC.NPS.NAVY.MIL Marina, California 36 41 10.3N, 121 48 17.9W (36.6862, -121.8050) UTC -8