RE: DCB Obs MAY 11th UT - DMSP F18, USA 186, USA 179r, Lacrosse 5, USA 129 Planar Search

Please be more specific.. MM?? What’s that??

 

And what increments are we talking about..

 

I don’t even know the name of the number I was changing, but I bet it is the ascending node, which is just about the only number in
an elset I understand without direction, except date, and revolutions per day..

 

:-))

 

Derek

 

PS.. Currently my next day that I could observe is tomorrow Night, but more likely the weekend.. Maybe Kevin will find it
“accidently” (*cough*) and then I could hammer it into submission.. :-))

 

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From: Björn Gimle [mailto:bjorn.gimle_at_gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 2:38 AM
To: Derek C Breit
Cc: Seesat List
Subject: Re: DCB Obs MAY 11th UT - DMSP F18, USA 186, USA 179r, Lacrosse 5, USA 129 Planar Search

 

It's the method I usually use.

A drawback is that it only compensates for time.

Your obs field is far from perigee , so if apogeehas been increased (or decreased!) the off-zenithal passes might be outside your
FOV.

If the TLE is old, and the error is mainly because of drag, usually change the Bstar (35722-3) instead.

 

But here it should be a maneuvre, and you might simulate it partly by changing MM

A LARGE KH MM change can be down to -0.13 or so, which would cover up to TWO orbits ! That would allow you to get a feeling of
possible track offsets.

 

/Björn 

 

2014-05-11 21:39 GMT+02:00 Derek C Breit via Seesat-l <seesat-l_at_satobs.org>:




EQUIPMENT-
Orion ST80 with Mogg 0.6 FR and a Mintron integrating camera. ST80 is
piggybacked on a 12" LX200 which does the slewing and tracking. Focal
Reducer is at max distance from detector and still capable of focus.
FOV - 1.98 x 1.48 Degrees
Time by IOTA-VTI GPS Time inserter (from VideoTimers)

Equipment Notes - Luminance only is recorded to video.

>>THIS IS THE WIDEFIELD SETUP - Watec 902H2 Ultimate w/ 50mm Camera lense


For CLASSIFIED

35951 09 057A   8739 G 20140511034118910 26 25 1007870+113982 37
35951 09 057A   8739 G 20140511034122680 26 25 1006489+132652 37

28888 05 042A   8739 G 20140511040457707 26 25 1226842-243045 37 S+027 03
28888 05 042A   8739 G 20140511040554699 26 25 1222531+051831 37
28888 05 042A   8739 G 20140511040614853 26 25 1220294+262102 37
28888 05 042A   8739 G 20140511040639629 26 25 1215424+570196 37
28888 05 042A   8739 G 20140511040656330 26 25 1206179+743403 37

28385 04 034B   8739 G 20140511043714705 26 25 1438294-010591 37
28385 04 034B   8739 G 20140511043740632 26 25 1441402+003750 37
28385 04 034B   8739 G 20140511043755981 26 25 1443403+014053 37

28646 05 016A   8739 G 20140511053149215 26 25 0601122+435046 37
28646 05 016A   8739 G 20140511053249711 26 25 0656731+453566 37
28646 05 016A   8739 G 20140511053427245 26 25 0935500+394253 37
28646 05 016A   8739 G 20140511053451870 26 25 1025026+340126 37
28646 05 016A   8739 G 20140511053541922 26 25 1156480+165379 37
28646 05 016A   8739 G 20140511053550230 26 25 1209252+134228 37




Obs - Pred: 0.557 deg X-track; 0.066 s early, relative 11.05 day old elset:
Obs - Pred: 0.303 deg X-track; 0.473 s early, relative 11.05 day old elset:

Obs - Pred: 0.071 deg X-track; 2.261 s early, relative 5.04 day old elset:
Obs - Pred: 0.059 deg X-track; 2.149 s early, relative 5.05 day old elset:
Obs - Pred: 0.056 deg X-track; 2.168 s early, relative 5.05 day old elset:
Obs - Pred: 0.068 deg X-track; 2.180 s early, relative 5.05 day old elset:
Obs - Pred: 0.131 deg X-track; 2.336 s early, relative 5.05 day old elset:

Obs - Pred: 0.077 deg X-track; 18.916 s early, relative 7.02 day old elset:
Obs - Pred: 0.001 deg X-track; 19.730 s early, relative 7.02 day old elset:
Obs - Pred: 0.031 deg X-track; 21.109 s early, relative 7.02 day old elset:

Obs - Pred: 0.026 deg X-track; 0.409 s early, relative 7.38 day old elset:
Obs - Pred: 0.037 deg X-track; 0.223 s early, relative 7.38 day old elset:
Obs - Pred: 0.065 deg X-track; 0.193 s early, relative 7.38 day old elset:
Obs - Pred: 0.079 deg X-track; 0.023 s early, relative 7.38 day old elset:
Obs - Pred: 0.142 deg X-track; 0.070 s late, relative 7.38 day old elset:
Obs - Pred: 0.090 deg X-track; 0.047 s late, relative 7.38 day old elset:


NOTES-

PLANAR SEARCH FOR USA 129..
I did *MOST* of a search for USA 129 and did not find it. Everything seen was matched.. (I did catch USA 179r by "accident".. Only
the second time I have caught a classified object accidently.. Yeah!")

First Planar Search I have attempted.. Using the current Classified elset, I edited this number.. 127.2344 in 10.0 increments.. I
covered roughly that number plus 180 to minus 60.. 2/3's of the search..

If this method is correct, then it is not in the part I covered ( 5x7 deg FOV to mag 8) and someone should look to the parts I
didn't cover i.e. "Late" vs. the current elset.. If this isn't correct, well..


Big Flares from USA 186.. Video forthcoming..


Derek

Derek C Breit
BREIT IDEAS Obs - Morgan Hill, CA - COSPAR 8739
E. Longitude -121 42 10.0, Latitude 37 6 47.8, Alt. 282m;

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