RE: Progress M-60 - Element Set and Visibility - Progress numbering

From: Bob Christy (rdc@zarya.info)
Date: Thu May 10 2007 - 06:36:28 EDT

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    You've made my point exactly - NASA Public Affairs does not use any of the
    formal schemes - it has its own modification. 
    
    Just to confuse matters - NASA reported on the last piloted launch as "Soyuz
    TMA-10" - see:
    http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2007/mar/HQ_SS0713_station_status.html as
    well as some NASA PA reports.
    
    The variations confuse such as users of this list who are generally used to
    the 'proper' designation. The real Progress 25 flew in 1986.
    
    Final rhetorical question - so please don't anyone answer, particularly as
    we are drifiting of topic - why does NASA not report its own launches with
    ISS mission designations instead of using the "STS-xxx" notation?
    
    Bob Christy
    
    
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Mgr. CSc. Antonín Vítek [mailto:AVitek@seznam.cz] 
    > Sent: Thursday 10 May 2007 10:58
    > To: 'Seesat List'
    > Subject: RE: Progress M-60 - Element Set and Visibility - 
    > Progress numbering
    > 
    > It is necessary to remeber that there are for the Russian 
    > launches toward ISS three different numbering schemes:
    > 
    > a) ISS project flight number, consisting of serial number 
    > followed by one letter - either "S" as Soyuz or "P" as 
    > Progress (eg. ISS-25P = 25th Progress launched to ISS, but 
    > usually published by NASA PAO as Progress-25)
    > 
    > b) RSC Energiya factory production number (eg. No. 360, 
    > sometimes given in NASA's publications as Progress-360)
    > 
    > c) Russian sequential numbering scheme of different 
    > modifications of spacecraft (eg. Progress M-60).
    > 
    > All the three above mentioned examples are designations of 
    > the same spacecraft.
    > 
    > But the last of the above mentioned examples is used as entry 
    > in the UN Registry of Launched Objects, therefore it has to 
    > be regarded as official one.
    > 
    > 
    > < ------------ Původní zpráva ------------
    > < Od: Bob Christy <rdc@zarya.info>
    > < Předmět: RE: Progress M-60 - Element Set and Visibility
    > < Datum: 09.5.2007 21:39:02
    > < ----------------------------------------
    > < I guess NASA Public Affairs can use any nomenclature it 
    > wishes, but it does
    > < not change the fact that it is Progress M-60.
    > < 
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