On 8 May, Tom Wagner, in his quest to "catch" the oldest orbiting antique, Vanguard 1, wrote: >Hi Rich. My message was posted on March 21, 2003. I really appreciate the reply. In my message I quoted the following. "Vanguard 1 is very faint visually, between tenth and fifteenth magnitude." I looked up your location and see that it looks like you are in a dark area. Is that correct? My night sky, even in the country, isn't all that good. My largest scope is an 8" f10. I wonder if I could see it with that scope w/o the reflections that you saw. What do you think? Clear skies, Tom Iowa USA Hi Tom - Here's what I think, based on my experience.... I'm in a fairly dark location, at 2728 meters, but being only 20 miles from the lights of Denver (2 million population), the sky to the east is distressingly bright. I've seen down to magnitude 15.9 with my 12-inch reflector, but that was a star, not a moving satellite. Vanguard 1 has reached 10th magnitude or so on several of the occasions I've seen it, well within the reach of an 8-inch telescope (whose limiting magnitude is about 1 mag. brighter than a 12-inch). I'd say with a 28 or 32 mm wide field eyepiece, and a field of view of a degree, you'll catch the little grapefruit on, say, one out of 2 or 3 attempts. You'd be catching reflections off the solar panels, since the specular reflection off the sphere is quite faint. On the two occasions when I successfully tracked Vanguard it was magnitude 12 to 14 between flashes. I use a standard magnitude of 10.3 with Quicksat to predict passes of Vanguard, and the resulting magnitude predictions are pretty close to the sphere reflection magnitude. The flashes can be 2 or 3 magnitudes brighter. Good luck! Cheers, Rich Keen, Coal Creek Canyon, Colorado, USA (39.877N, 105.391W, elevation 2728m) ----------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from SeeSat-L, send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the SUBJECT to SeeSat-L-request@satobs.org List archived at http://www.satobs.org/seesat/seesatindex.html
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