Re: Q: GPS visibility

From: Mike McCants (mikem@fc.net)
Date: Wed May 31 2000 - 12:34:17 PDT

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    "Balcewicz, Joseph F" wrote:
    
    > Has anyone reported seeing a GPS (Navstar) satellite with the unaided eye?
    >
    
    Not that I know of.
    
    > What magnitude might they be?
    >
    
    Wayne Hughes wrote:
    
    >I figure magnitude 10-12.
    
    The ISI Consulting technical archive for a 1999 launch
             http://www.isi-consulting.com/tech/1999/gpsii3.html
    says that the GPS payload measures 94 inches long and 91 inches in
    diameter.  (2.4 meters long and 2.3 meters in diameter)
    This should give an RCS of about 5 or 6.
    
    I have intrinsic magnitudes (full phase at 1000Km) of 4.5 or 5.0 for
    the few that I have seen.  This translates into an observed magnitude
    of about 11.0 to 11.5.  Typically I used a 10 inch reflector at about
    100 power (about 8 years ago).
    
    However, ISI Consulting also says "with solar panels 180 degrees apart".
    I have observed flashes from some GPS payloads (perhaps as bright as
    magitude 9).
    
    >Satellite situation report says they have radar cross sections of 10-100,
    
    But my "median" values range from 2 to 50 and the median of the medians
    is about 5 or 6.  So I suspect that RCS values for these objects (and many
    other high objects) are sometimes much too high.
    
    >rule of thumb of a magnitude of 7.3 for a satellite with an rcs of 1 at
    
    My thumb says 6.3, but I always see objects brighter than they
    really are.  :-)
    
    >but it did get the CSL-04 99057AU fragment
    >at 1100 km and rcs=0.18 last night.
    
    Wow, I'm jealous.  :-)
    
    >I noticed in the SSR that geosynch
    >Galaxy 5 has a rcs of 760 (suggesting magnitude 7-8) and Glonass 36,
    >the Russian GPS counterpart, has a rcs of 555.  Could these be right?
    
    No way.  :-)
    
    Mike McCants
    
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