Re: USA was unstable , rolling and tumbling !

From: John Locker (john@satcom.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sun Mar 30 2008 - 13:25:50 UTC

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    I think if I asked "joe public" to describe to me what was meant by......
    
    "It was rolling and
    tumbling and [its gyration] wasn't always the same from one orbit to 
    another,"
    
    I'd get a different answer.
    
    
    Its only my opinion of course , but I get the impression this was yet 
    another attempt to big up the situation that presented itself to the 
    Pentagon and to vindicate the intercept..
    
    As I have said before , the destruction of 193 was a brilliant demonstration 
    of technical know  how , impressive to say the least .
    
    However we are wandering into political territory here , which is off 
    limits.
    
    John
    
    
    
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Ted Molczan" <ssl3molcz@rogers.com>
    To: <seesat-l@satobs.org>
    Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 1:33 PM
    Subject: RE: USA was unstable , rolling and tumbling !
    
    
    > John Locker wrote:
    >
    >> I saw it a number of occassions at quite high mag , and also
    >> through the veiwfinder and I saw no evidence of flashing ,
    >> although it was on one of those obs brighter than expected.
    >>
    >> If you look at the image captured by Paul a few days before
    >> destruction , there's no eveidence there of anything tumbling
    >> wildly as the statement from Hicks seems to suggest.Indeed it
    >> was seen by a number of list members in those  last few days
    >> and I dont recall anyone suggesting it was tumbling.
    >> And yet the Hicks statement would give the impression that
    >> for the six weeks prior  to intercept , the thing was going haywire !
    >
    > I find that quote (below) insufficient to support the inference that 
    > Admiral
    > Hicks meant it was tumbling wildly or going haywire; he was talking about
    > stability on a time scale of at least one revolution, so he could have 
    > meant
    > that it was rotating slowly:
    >
    > http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_generic.jsp?channel=aerospacedaily&
    > id=news/ASAT032408.xml
    >
    > <<< "[The dead satellite] was not stable," Hicks says. "It was rolling and
    > tumbling and [its gyration] wasn't always the same from one orbit to 
    > another,
    > which added to the technical challenge. We tried for six weeks to see what 
    > was
    > predictable about what it was doing each orbit, and we just couldn't do 
    > it." >>>
    >
    > Although the object was generally observed to be steady in brightness, 
    > irregular
    > variations were reported on a handful of occasions; however, those effects 
    > could
    > have been due to changing illumination as it moved relative the observer.
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    > Ted Molczan
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