Re: Richard's mystery GEO satellite near Cone Nebula

From: Richard Crisp (rdcrisp@earthlink.net)
Date: Thu Mar 17 2005 - 13:37:25 EST

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    HI Rob
    
    I am an astroimager not a satellite chaser so I don't always appreciate the 
    finer aspects of satellite chasing.
    
    For astroimaging using my GOTO mount, a difference of 100 to 150 miles makes 
    little difference in pointing accuracy.
    
    For satellites it sounds like 17 miles is a big deal. That makes sense now 
    that I think of it because the satellites are much closer than are the 
    nebulae I usually chase.
    
    I just picked the coordinates for Oakland Calif for my GOTO controller, it 
    was already in the database and I was too lazy to search the internet for a 
    site to let me get more accurate. I'll not do that again :-)
    
    on the time thing, I could still be a couple of minutes off. I think I can 
    recover the time delta but I will have to work on that this evening when I 
    return home.
    
    Here's the final image that one frame was used to make:
    
    http://www.narrowbandimaging.com/ngc2264_cone_foxfur_ap180_img6303_page.htm
    
    it is a collection of Halpha, [Sulfur II] and Blue frames.
    
    The particular frame that caught the satellite was taken with a blue filter. 
    I sort of imagine had I used the emission line filters it would not have 
    shown up very well and I am confident the stars would have been greatly 
    attenuated.
    
    If I am understanding your last statement, are you saying this was a recent 
    launch?
    
    Pardon my ignorance in this regard.
    
    Thanks and best regards
    Richard
    
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Matson, Robert" <ROBERT.D.MATSON@saic.com>
    To: "'Richard Crisp'" <rdcrisp@earthlink.net>; <b_gimle@algonet.se>
    Cc: <bjorn.gimle@tietoenator.com>; "'Seesat-L'" <SeeSat-L@satobs.org>
    Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:25 AM
    Subject: RE: Richard's mystery GEO satellite near Cone Nebula
    
    
    >> here's the latitude/longitude of my observing location
    >>
    >> Lat:  37.718537  37:43:6.733N
    >> Lon:  -122.066474  122:03:59.306W
    >
    > Richard, these coordinates are significantly different from what's
    > posted on your website image -- more than 17 miles away!  When using
    > the correct coordinates, Ekran 8 is the best match, though it is
    > still not a great match.  Ekran 8 would have been early by 6 minutes
    > and 20 seconds -- in other words, if the track was perfect, your
    > exposure would have ended at 3:56:20 rather than 3:50.  This is a
    > pretty big error for an ephemeris whose epoch is only a little over
    > a day old.
    >
    > By the way, this is a terrific image.  I'm having no trouble picking
    > out 14th magnitude stars!  --Rob
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