I have Toronto at -079.33 ,+43.67 N. This should be sufficiently close for ID once date and time are confirmed. Is Local Time = UTC - 4 ? The message was sent 2003-06-27 at 05:03 UTC - was that 01:03 local time ? So, 21:50 local time was 2003-06-27 at 01:50 UTC, 3:13 earlier ? 22:50 local time was 2003-06-27 at 02:50 UTC ? Or was "last night" 2003-06-25 Local Time (Wednesday) ? I used Mike's alldat.tle and searched both nights at 01:50, 02:50 03:50 +- 6 min inside the Summer Triangle. As Tony indicated, Grace 1/2 on 2003-06-26 06:49 UTC. I found one possible pair 2003-06-26 02:52, two pairs 2003-06-27 02:48 and 02:55. Other pairs where >2 min separated in time, or >10 degrees in track direction or culmination. Furthermore, most went N-S or S-N. The most tight pair was the Japanese spysat IGS-1B #27699 03-09B and one of its nose fairings #27702 03-09E on 2003-06-26, just four degrees apart. The pairs last night were 23560 ERS 2 /20436 Spot 2, two degrees in altitude and 12 degrees apart, and 19257 Cosmos 1954 Rk/16682 Cosmos 1741 Rk on identical tracks, but 40 degrees apart. SkyMap chart and prediction listings will be sent to Vilis. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vilis Miklasevics" <vmikla1104@rogers.com> To: <SeeSat-L@satobs.org> Sent: den 27 juni 2003 07:03 Subject: 1st posting (3rd attempt...HTML rejections) > I found you folks in the FAQ section at Heavens Above. > My name is Vilis. I've lived in Toronto, CANADA all of my life - and I'm a > NIGHT person. > > Last night I was at a garden party just northeast of the city. At around > 2150 local time, I saw two satellites - about 10 deg. apart on the SAME > trajectory - pass through the Summer Triangle. I pointed this out to other > guests and they were also astounded by the "double". My best estimate was a > W to E direction. (maybe SE to NW). Maximum altitude was ~80 deg. > I had seen another satellite earlier on - on a somewhat similar track. > Heavens Above doesn't show two (or three) satellites on a similar > trajectory. > > Forgive me for the following: I remember it was 10 minutes to the hour when > I saw the "double" - but the more I think, the less I'm sure whether it was > 2150 or 2250. Also, my watch may have been up to fifteen minutes late. Given > all of the preceding, I can't reconcile with the information at Heavens > Above. > If necessary, I'll go back and fix my coordinates better - but there doen't > seem to be a match of any kind. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from SeeSat-L, send a message with 'unsubscribe' > in the SUBJECT to SeeSat-L-request@satobs.org > List archived at http://www.satobs.org/seesat/seesatindex.html > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from SeeSat-L, send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the SUBJECT to SeeSat-L-request@satobs.org List archived at http://www.satobs.org/seesat/seesatindex.html
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