re: KH 11-8, USA 86, 116

Walter Nissen (dk058@cleveland.Freenet.Edu)
Tue, 4 Jun 1996 16:07:43 -0400

> Date: Tue Apr 30 07:28:44 1996 
> From: thomsona@netcom.com (Allen Thomson) 
> Subject: KH 11-8, USA 86, 116 
 
>    Could someone please summarize the status of observations and 
> non-observations of KH 11-8, USA 86 and USA 116?  As I understand it, 
> 11-8 has definitely been identified, as has one object which may 
> be USA 86 or 116 based on its orbit. 
 
>    Is this reasonably correct?  Also, how firmly can it be said that there 
> is only one, rather than two, objects in orbits compatible with USA 86 or 
> 116? 
 
>    If USA 86 has been replaced, that seems to be quite a short lifetime in 
> terms of recent KH-class vehicles.  Were there any signs last year that it 
> was behaving abnormally? 
 
When this question appeared, I was hopeful that it would receive a nice 
clear answer.  No such luck. 
 
Since I'm an astronomical observer and not a space technologist, I always 
look eagerly toward the "experts" for guidance on matters like these. 
 
Does IMINT mean IMaging INTelligence spacecraft? 
 
This table is drawn in significant part from Mike McCants' QSMG9604.ZIP 
and Rainer Kracht's message, SeeSat-L #1220, both available from the 
SeeSat-L archive: 
 
		      preferred 
		      vulgar 
		      name			 McCants   Eberst  std 
cat #  cospar	 USA  KH	 status 	 abs mag    Kracht  mag   ld 
15423  84-122 A    6  11-6	 out of orbit	 3.	   4.09 +/- .06  339 
18441  87- 90 A   27  11-7	 out of orbit??  ??	   4.20 +/- .16  299 
19625  88- 99 A   33  11-8	 in orbit	 3.	   3.98 +/- .07  311 
22251  92- 83 A   86  11-9	 ??		 ??	   5.05 +/- .10  333 
		      or 12-1?? 
23728  95- 66 A  116  11-10,	 ??		 ??	   ??		 339 
		      12-1 
		      or 12-2?? 
xxxxx??  ??	  ??		 ??		 ??	   ?? 
 
ld  is	January launch date 
(the January date is sometimes mistakenly called the Julian date) 
 
Is there a consensus supporting the erasure of any of these question 
marks?	I would be most appreciative. 
 
 
These are the only KH elsets in Ted Molczan's file last week: 
KH 9-17 ELINT	 0.3  0.9  0.0	9.0 
1 13172U 82041	C 96 80.04925749  .00000180  00000-0  30389-4 0    01 
2 13172  95.9712 280.0823 0004000  68.2280 291.7718 14.69528737    09 
KH 9-19 ELINT	 0.3  0.9  0.0	9.0 
1 15071U 84065	C 96 70.08899125  .00000160  00000-0  26244-4 0    03 
2 15071  95.9040  89.9195 0006000   5.8552 354.1446 14.70791019    01 
KH 11-8 	15.0  3.0  0.0	4.6 
1 19625U 88099	A 96133.14429013  .00007300  00000-0  82214-4 0    07 
2 19625  97.9340 195.7250 0534000 239.4325 120.5673 14.74800988    09 
 
22251 not present 
 
USA 116 	15.0  3.0  0.0	4.6 
1 23728U 95066	A 96142.99939185  .00000187  00000-0  12433-4 0    09 
2 23728  97.7611 253.4578 0427330 335.4015  24.5984 14.54455486    07 
 
How can an ELINT be a KH??  Are we talking CCD here? 
 
 
Cheers. 
 
Walter Nissen				dk058@cleveland.freenet.edu

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