Fw: Astronomical League Citizen Science Opportunity

From: Brad Young via Seesat-l <seesat-l_at_satobs.org>
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 18:19:52 +0000 (UTC)
For all you "foreign agents" who didn't want to be involved with the AL...see thread below.

Truly disappointing. Incidentally, my monthly spy check is late. Please remit.


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From: Brad Young <allenb_young_at_yahoo.com>
To: Tom DeClue <tdeclue_at_hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019, 01:16:55 PM CDT
Subject: Re: Astronomical League Citizen Science Opportunity


Well, as an active observer on it for 15 years I can truly say that is bunk. You will be discouraged to know that it was your program that led me to it.

Naive is a good word for someone who thinks that anyone can do anything with knowing a satellite is above them. If I can see it with binoculars, I'm pretty sure it can be found by your imagined enemies. "Quick, Hide the Tanks!"

As for the government, yes, my hair has fallen out and my teeth yellowed because I forgot to wear my foil hat while observing.

Go make America Hate Again!


Brad Young Visual:
10 x 50 binoculars
Meade ETX-125 
22" f/4.2 UC Obsession
COSPAR 8336 =TULSA1 +36.139208,-95.983429 660ft, 201m
COSPAR 8335 =TULSA2 +35.8311  -96.1411 1083ft, 330m
Remote Imaging:
MPC I89 COSPAR 7777 38.165653 -2.326735 5150ft, 1650m Nerpio, Spain
MPC Q62 COSPAR 7778 -31.2733 149.0644 3400ft, 1122m Siding Spring, NSW, Australia 
MPC H06 COSPAR 7779 32.92 -105.528 7298ft, 2225m Mayhill, New Mexico USA 
MPC U69 COSPAR 7780 37.07 -119.4 4610ft, 1405m Auberry CA USA
MPC 323 COSPAR 7782 -32.008 116.135 984ft, 300m Perth, WA, Australia 
MPC Q67 COSPAR 7784 -33.3967 149.4917 2081ft, 650m Bathurst NSW, Australia 
MPC W76 COSPAR 7785 -30.45 -70.75 5151 ft, 1570m Chacay, Chile








On Saturday, July 13, 2019, 12:42:58 PM CDT, Tom DeClue <tdeclue_at_hotmail.com> wrote: 






Brad,

I don't think the AL should have any association with the seesat organization.

Although I can't prove it, it is most likely supported and encouraged by agents of foreign governments.

I know for a fact that US government agencies monitor the site very closely.

It's primary purpose is to provide unauthorized people with orbital elements of classified satellites. 

To suggest otherwise is naive.  

So I can't support any activities associated with it, and I don't think it would be wise for the AL to be connected with it or support it either.  

Thanks for asking,

Tom









________________________________ 
From: Brad Young <allenb_young_at_yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 3:43 AM
To: eosoc_at_csastro.org
Cc: J. Respler
Subject: Fw: Astronomical League Citizen Science Opportunity 
 





Tom,




Could you help answer Joe's questions below? I have nominated our group seesat for the AL Citizen Science award, hoping to garner mutual interest.

Thanks.






Brad Young Visual:

10 x 50 binoculars

Meade ETX-125 

22" f/4.2 UC Obsession

COSPAR 8336 =TULSA1 +36.139208,-95.983429 660ft, 201m

COSPAR 8335 =TULSA2 +35.8311  -96.1411 1083ft, 330m

Remote Imaging:

MPC I89 COSPAR 7777 38.165653 -2.326735 5150ft, 1650m Nerpio, Spain

MPC Q62 COSPAR 7778 -31.2733 149.0644 3400ft, 1122m Siding Spring, NSW, Australia 

MPC H06 COSPAR 7779 32.92 -105.528 7298ft, 2225m Mayhill, New Mexico USA 

MPC U69 COSPAR 7780 37.07 -119.4 4610ft, 1405m Auberry CA USA

MPC 323 COSPAR 7782 -32.008 116.135 984ft, 300m Perth, WA, Australia 

MPC Q67 COSPAR 7784 -33.3967 149.4917 2081ft, 650m Bathurst NSW, Australia 

MPC W76 COSPAR 7785 -30.45 -70.75 5151 ft, 1570m Chacay, Chile

















----- Forwarded Message -----

From: JAY RESJPLER <JRespler_at_superlink.net>

To: Brad Young <allenb_young_at_yahoo.com>

Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019, 01:37:10 AM CDT

Subject: Re: Astronomical League Citizen Science Opportunity






Hi.
I took a look at 
https://www.astroleague.org/content/earth-orbiting-satellite-observing-program

 Not sure just what you need. My personal activity is to record mags for everything I see.  
They ask for  Seeing and a Sketch.
I don't record seeing as that has little bearing on mag estimate.
I do record a position but a sketch would add nothing.  Those requirements are more for deep sky objects rather than sats. Since I've been observing sats since Sputnik 3, I would qualify for a gold level, but as I can't supply  the info they ask for, I may not be able to help them.
--
Jay Respler
609-662-7438
JRespler_at_superlink.net
Monroe Township, New Jersey

On 7/10/19 4:31 AM, Brad Young via Seesat-l wrote:


>  So...
> 
> I had asked a select few and got no response. Now to the rank and file. 
> 
> The Astronomical League has added a new Observing Program called Citizen Science. The intent is to involve its members in just that. They have asked me to explain 2 things to qualify our little group:
> 
> 1. Can you show me where data is uploaded, e.g., positional changes to determine perturbations? Would that be in the archives? 
> 
> 2. Who uses the data obtained?
> 
> I did consider Marco's "letter to the Editor" but it contains the S word ("spy") which will not go over well. I obviously can answer both questions myself, but would like some buy-in from others.
> 
> You can see what they are looking for at:
> 
> astroleauge dot org click on observing and then the alphabetical list of programs - find the Citizen Science Program at the top of the list - that will show the scope. You can also see some of the other programs involved in Level 3 (that would be our slot). We would be "tied" to the existing Earth Orbiting Satellite Observing Program. Worst case we would be Level 2, though either one would get us exposure.
> 
> So, why do this? Many of you are not members, and I fully admit to being interested in claiming my seesat reports as counting towards award levels. But, there are 20,000+ members of the AL, and this might kick start some new interest and gain some new observers.
> 
> If you have any ideas, please let me know.
> 
> PS if the idea is "we don't want new observers" I've heard plenty of that for 15 years, so don't waste the electrons.
> 
> Brad Young Visual:
> 10 x 50 binoculars
> Meade ETX-125 
> 22" f/4.2 UC Obsession
> COSPAR 8336 =TULSA1 +36.139208,-95.983429 660ft, 201m
> COSPAR 8335 =TULSA2 +35.8311  -96.1411 1083ft, 330m
> Remote Imaging:
> MPC I89 COSPAR 7777 38.165653 -2.326735 5150ft, 1650m Nerpio, Spain
> MPC Q62 COSPAR 7778 -31.2733 149.0644 3400ft, 1122m Siding Spring, NSW, Australia 
> MPC H06 COSPAR 7779 32.92 -105.528 7298ft, 2225m Mayhill, New Mexico USA 
> MPC U69 COSPAR 7780 37.07 -119.4 4610ft, 1405m Auberry CA USA
> MPC 323 COSPAR 7782 -32.008 116.135 984ft, 300m Perth, WA, Australia 
> MPC Q67 COSPAR 7784 -33.3967 149.4917 2081ft, 650m Bathurst NSW, Australia 
> MPC W76 COSPAR 7785 -30.45 -70.75 5151 ft, 1570m Chacay, Chile
> 
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