Fwd: Any hypothesis about those "mysterious" objects recoverd in Zimbabwe?

From: Jonathan McDowell (planet4589@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Jul 30 2013 - 12:37:48 UTC

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    It's pretty clear that it was part of object 8133, the Delta second stage
    from the
    Symphonie 2 launch in 1975.
    The TIP message for 8133 says it reentered west of Africa at 0600 Jul 14.
    But pushing the final
    TLE set ground track forward one can see that it passes directly over the
    reported location
    of Mhondoro, Zimbwabe at 0612 UTC Jul 14, a plausible distance for the
    reentering debris to have travelled.
    This is consistent with the reported Jul 14 event date.
     - Jonathan McDowell
    On 30 July 2013 06:12, Roberto Labanti <rlabanti@gmail.com> wrote:
    > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Jon Mikel <jonmikelk@gmail.com> wrote:
    > > Hi all;
    > > I see 2 candidates:
    > > -Delta 2 R/B (2) (1992-089C)
    > > -Soyuz Rocket (SL-4 R/B) (2013-028B)
    > Thanks. Am I wrong or 2013-028B decayed only July 28 and 1992-089C
    > July 22? Maybe I wasn't too clear in my "report". Sorry for that!
    > The photographed object (first published by "Citizen Journalist" on
    > July 18), recovered near "Mulota Village 4" (or "Turf Village", as
    > stated in the July 29 news), Ngezi Mine, Mhondoro, Kadoma District,
    > Mashonaland West, Zimbabwe, was apparently found Monday July 15 by
    > some Sylvester Manika, after "strange blast that was followed by a
    > bang " the day before
    > [http://bulawayo24.com/index-id-news-sc-national-byo-33522.html] (a
    > better description on July 29 news). The Battlefields Police
    > spokeperson was quoted July 22 stating "this was the third time that
    > unidentified objects were discovered within a week following other
    > objects seen in Zvehama Village in Manicaland and in Chikwanha village
    > in Mashonaland East", two other provinces. On July 18, "Citizien
    > Journalist" wrote instead that "[he] understands that there are other
    > fragments that have been spotted in the Mamina area and somewhere
    > towards Mvuma. These areas fall under Mhondoro"
    > [http://bulawayo24.com/index-id-news-sc-national-byo-33312.html] (the
    > first on Mashonaland West provincie, the second on Midlands one).
    > July 29 news added that "Two objects landed in the Mhondoro area at
    > the Zimplats Mine [i.e. the one photographed] and at Denya Village in
    > Mamina [i.e., the one mentioned by "Citizien Journalist"?] while one
    > landed in Unyetu in Chikomba district [i.e in Mashonaland East
    > Province, so that perhaps should be the one identified as Chikwanha
    > village in the news of 22]. [...] The spherical objects that landed in
    > Mamina and Unyetu were said to weigh above 10kg."
    > [http://bulawayo24.com/index-id-news-sc-national-byo-33854.html]
    > So we haven't very precise location data, but all findings seem to
    > have occurred in the days following July 14 and before, perhaps, July
    > 18 or, at least, July 22.
    > Best,
    > Roberto
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