On Thu, 24 Jul 1997, Jeff Hunt wrote: > Although I've realized it for some time, I notice that the classified elsets > are no longer being updated. I realize most of us take things for granted > and might complain about something that is given to us as a free service. > > Please understand I'm not complaining, but I am curious as to why Ted > Molczan is no longer updating the classified elements in the molczan files > that are made public on some tle sites. Did the long arm of the NRO reach > out and touch somebody ;-) I'm fairly sure NRO has nothing to do with this. The only way classified elements get updated is when someone observes them and reports accurate timings and positions. No observation report, no update. So I encourage careful observers to get involved here. For whatever reason, there are some observers who don't care to make their observations public. Some in Europe though, do use such observations to update elements. Some of those people are not online, so it would be very helpful if a friend would post those updates for all to use. The only way to keep up with the increasing number of these sats is to have more observers tracking them. So please, could all classified elements be posted here. This can be discussed email if necessary. Jay Respler -- Details of how to get on the Satellite Observer Mail List, elements, prediction programs and other satellite information, at the Visual Satellite Observers Home Page: http://www2.plasma.mpe-garching.mpg.de/sat/satintro.html -- JRespler@InJersey.com Satellite Tracker * Early Typewriter Collector Freehold, New Jersey