RE: SeeSat-D Digest V2003 #499

From: Radio-amateur PA-3171 (pa3171@hotmail.com)
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    Latest available TLE-set for AMOS-2:
    
    
    AMOS-2
    1 28132U 03059A   03363.40876784 -.00000256 +00000-0 +10000-3 0 00069
    2 28132 023.5849 068.4979 5924884 359.6669 000.1739 02.01561075000047
    
    
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    SeeSat-D Digest				Volume 2003 : Issue 499
    
    Today's Topics:
       USA 129 post-manoeuvre elements       [ "Ted Molczan" 
    <molczan@rogers.com> ]
       obs 31dec 03365 8305                  [ paul <astro@pgog.net> ]
       8539 obs Noss 3-2 Dec 30              [ "Steve Newcomb" 
    <snewcomb@gcnetmail ]
       Re: Amos-2 launched                   [ "danna linn" 
    <dannalinn@hotmail.com ]
       Obs Dec 31 morning                    [ "Leo Barhorst" 
    <leobarhorst@zonnet. ]
       DEC31.OBS                             [ Russell Eberst 
    <eberst@blueyonder.c ]
       Re: Amos-2 launched                   [ Kevin Fetter <kfetter@yahoo.com> 
    ]
    Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:42:49 -0500
    From: "Ted Molczan" <molczan@rogers.com>
    To: "SeeSat-L" <SeeSat-L@satobs.org>
    Subject: USA 129 post-manoeuvre elements
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    Observation arc 2003 Dec 28.84 - 30.54 UTC:
    
    USA 129         15.0  3.0  0.0  5.3 v
    1 24680U 96072A   03364.48263571  .00022153  00000-0  24238-3 0    04
    2 24680  97.7982  63.7841 0549873  82.5150 283.8156 14.71918203    09
    
    WRMS residuals = 0.028 deg
    
    I constrained the solution in the same manner as for the previous elset, as
    described here:
    
    http://satobs.org/seesat/Dec-2003/0373.html
    
    Ted Molczan
    
    
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    Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 20:16:25 -0600
    From: paul <astro@pgog.net>
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    Subject: obs 31dec 03365 8305
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    23233 94 057A   8305 G 20031231004705770 56 35 2039708+305460 75
    23233 94 057A   8305 G 20031231004706510 56 35 2039164+307432 26
    23233 94 057A   8305 G 20031231004711710 56 35 2035152+320520 55
    23233 94 057A   8305 G 20031231004727200 56 35 2023099+356802 35
    23233 94 057A   8305 G 20031231004741260 56 35 2011807+386887 15
    23233 94 057A   8305 G 20031231004940030 56 35 1827607+539372 35
    28095 03 054A   8305 G 20031231013831370 56 35 0528553+631643 36
    28097 03 054C   8305 G 20031231013843490 56 35 0531876+629866 25
    28097 03 054C   8305 G 20031231013900130 56 35 0529762+586871 16
    
    used skymap 6.6 (reg) to help define brightest part of the trak
    as max mag predicted was +8.1.  seeing was good.
    I got the 054s NE short window before eclipse.  I trimmed my
    wife's pet tree to help with the view.  LS/mft
    
    2003 Dec 31 02h16 UT
    03365.095
    
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    Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:35:20 -0500
    From: "Steve Newcomb" <snewcomb@gcnetmail.net>
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    Subject: 8539 obs Noss 3-2  Dec 30
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    28095 03 054A   8539 G 20031230234622730 17 25 0453699+812967 67
    28095 03 054A   8539 G 20031230234706730 17 25 0439799+690658 67
    28095 03 054A   8539 G 20031230234733530 17 25 0437845+605257 38
    28095 03 054A   8539 G 20031230234918380 17 25 0441129+283832 28
    28095 03 054A   8539 G 20031230234935510 17 25 0442105+240033 67
    28095 03 054A   8539 G 20031230234939590 17 25 0442203+225654 38
    28097 03 054C   8539 G 20031230235047590 17 25 0447550+100977 67
    28097 03 054C   8539 G 20031230235113480 17 25 0449145+051231 67
    28097 03 054C   8539 G 20031230235137030 17 25 0450785+010844 67
    
    Tonight I think I have accurate points. My post of 2 days ago was way off,
    above says 4.6 seconds early on following.
    NOSS 3-2 (A)     4.0  2.0  0.0  5.5 v
    1 28095U 03054A   03362.05507167  .00000000  00000-0  00000-0 0    04
    2 28095  63.4170 238.4221 0127000 179.2188 180.7812 13.40481022    07
    
    An unknown was seen in fov with #28095 for a long time as they had a similar
    heading. I marked the time when they appeared the closest at 23.46.58.34 .
    IDSat has Cosmos 1137 / #11545 with a tracking degree of 156 and #28095
    tracking degree of 140. It was fun to watch.
    After the last point was taken on Noss 3-2 A, I then moved back to pick up
    #28097 and started marking points. At 23.51.21 I was able to mark a time
    close to a distinctive triangle of two 7 mag and one 6 mag stars. After
    using that to verify its time I used ObsReduce to locate star appulses for
    other points.
    It was cold with wind chill being entirely too much. I set up telescope for
    this obs only. My starting place was under Polaris, which made it easy to go
    inside after initial setup and come back to still be pointing to the right
    spot.
    
    Lat 39.4707 Lon -79.3388  Alt 2573 ft  -5 UTC
    
    
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    Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 06:35:27 +0000
    From: "danna linn" <dannalinn@hotmail.com>
    To: kfetter@yahoo.com, SeeSat-L@satobs.org
    Subject: Re: Amos-2 launched
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    <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE>
    <P><BR><BR></P>I have checking <A 
    href="http://www.celestrak.com">www.celestrak.com</A> and still no 
    TLE..</DIV>
    <DIV class=RTE>Israeli media have said that the satellite has started its on 
    engin and performed a manuver.</DIV>
    <DIV class=RTE>any reason the TLE's are not published? </DIV>
    <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>From: Kevin Fetter <KFETTER@YAHOO.COM>
    <DIV></DIV>Reply-To: kfetter@yahoo.com
    <DIV></DIV>To: SeeSat-L@satobs.org
    <DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: Amos-2 launched
    <DIV></DIV>Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 08:36:30 -0800 (PST)
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>I had checked a few hours ago to see if they launched amos 2. 
    After seeing they did, I log into
    <DIV></DIV>the oig to see if an orbit was there, nope. Just checked again, 
    nothing so far. It's catalog
    <DIV></DIV>number is listed as 28132
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>Heck I am waiting for data on YAMAL 201 to appear. It was placed 
    into orbit, over a month ago.
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>They have data on it.
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>Internatnl&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    Period Incli- Apogee&nbsp;&nbsp;Peri.
    <DIV></DIV>Designator&nbsp;&nbsp; CatNo Common 
    Name&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    Source LaunchDate&nbsp;&nbsp;Mins. nation&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    KM&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;KM.
    <DIV></DIV>------------ ----- ------------------------- ------ ---------- 
    ------ ------ ------ ------
    <DIV></DIV>2003-053A&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;28089 YAMAL 
    202&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    IND&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2003/11/24 
    1438.1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;0.1&nbsp;&nbsp;36374&nbsp;&nbsp;35278
    <DIV></DIV>2003-053F&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;28094 YAMAL 
    201&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
    IND&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;2003/11/24 
    1434.4&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;0.1&nbsp;&nbsp;36416&nbsp;&nbsp;35093
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>Yet no tle for it. There's a tle for yamal 202.
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>Kevin
    <DIV></DIV>
    <DIV></DIV>=====
    <DIV></DIV>COSPAR Site #1775&nbsp;&nbsp;Long 75.6910 W, Lat 44.6062 N, 
    altitude 100 metres
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    Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 09:09:29 +0100
    From: "Leo Barhorst" <leobarhorst@zonnet.nl>
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    Subject: Obs Dec 31 morning
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    The last day of the year started with a clear sky; it was just
    freezing, but no wind.
    
    In the morning twilight I saw ISS at 06:51 UT come out of the
    shadow in the west. Passing high above Jupiter it got even
    brighter than Jupiter. Than faded to same mag as Arctures and
    slowly was lost in the bright twilight in the east.
    
    03- 31 A 03-12-31 06:20:50   LB   81.0 0.5   3 27.0   AA, 4->7
    Timings: 29.87 24.71 26.39 sec.
    
    85- 94 G 03-12-31 06:10:24   LB   74.5 0.5   4 18.6   AA, 6->7
    Timings: 17.69 19.47 18.11 19.21 sec.
    Period double at 37.2 sec?
    
    86- 19 C 03-12-31 06:24:36   LB   42.0 0.5   8  5.3   AA, 5->i
    Timings: 3.87 6.91 6.17 4.95 5.46 5.75 4.21 4.68 sec.
    A bit Irr.
    
    87- 11 A 03-12-31 06:34:25   LB   96.4 0.5   5 19.3   AA, 4->7
    Timings: 9.20 10.40 9.49 10.94 19.01 8.54 10.82 8.07 9.90 sec.
    Combined period of 9.xx and 10.xx sec.
    
    90- 29 J 03-12-31 05:43      LB                       S, 7
    92-  8 B 03-12-31 05:58:21   LB  101.6 0.5   4 25.4   AA, 4->7
    Timings: 26.26 23.81 26.81 24.67 sec.
    
    92- 53 B 03-12-31 06:47      LB                       S, 4
    93- 70 B 03-12-31 06:04      LB                       S, 6.5
    
    2003: 664 obs
    PPAS: 13056 obs
    
    HAPPY NEW YEAR
    All the best wishes for 2004
    
    Greetings and clear, dark skies
    Leo Barhorst, Medemblik NL
    Cospar 4252 52.76350 N 5.09114 E 2 m ASL
    http://www.home.zonnet.nl/leobarhorst/index.html
    
    
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    Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 08:36:29 +0000
    From: Russell Eberst <eberst@blueyonder.co.uk>
    To: molczan@rogers.com, peter@ascotrig.demon.co.uk, 
    pierre-neirinck@wanadoo.fr,
        mmccants@io.com, davidbrierley@waitrose.com, yamada@ysc.go.jp,
        r.kracht@t-online.de, astro@pgog.net, grr@iafrica.com,
        jimmcmanus@optusnet.com.au, Mike.Waterman@web-hq.com,
        0307446510-0001@t-online.de, bram.dorreman@skynet.be, 
    dsat@smartgroups.com,
        SeeSat-L@satobs.org
    Subject: DEC31.OBS
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    SATOBS
    
    2420 0312 0.211 1204
    31
    6604002 063558.40 191355+670334 6.2 6.2 0 S
    8807801 064001.92 211820+643904 5.9 6.8 0.5 R
    9205302 064359.21 215723+744526 5.7 5.7 0 S
    8306102 064648.22 232956+652748 5.1 5.1 0 S
    9503304 065018.61 183844+520955 6.2 6.2 0 S
    9107605 065759.60 195201+572332 6.4 6.4 0 S
    8702701 070603.63 000350+635405 6.0 6.0 0 S
    9008136 071007.90 222643+635004 6.8 6.8 0 S
    9501501 071454.34 204234+662934 5.4 5.4 0 S
    999
    
    
    
    Best wishes for 2004,             Total observations:     4232 (2003)
    Russell  Eberst
    55.9486N,   3.1383W,  150 feet = 46 metres above MSL
    
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    Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 05:13:28 -0800 (PST)
    From: Kevin Fetter <kfetter@yahoo.com>
    To: SeeSat-L@satobs.org
    Subject: Re: Amos-2 launched
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    First they have to track it with there sensor, then generate an orbit for 
    it..
    
    Here's a site by the people who track this stuff
    
    http://www.spacecom.mil/factsheetshtml/reentryassessment.htm
    
    It shows where there sensor are located.
    
    Eventually the tle will appear
    
    Kevin
    
    
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