Re: What's in a Name?

From: John W. Gardner, Jr. (
Date: Fri Jan 14 2000 - 18:49:50 PST

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    On Fri, 14 Jan 2000 13:26:01 -0500 (EST) Walter Nissen
    <> writes:
    >You ask "What's in a Name?"?
    > I have proposed use of the term "vulgar name" to replace these, 
    > Can you suggest a better term?
    I like the term "applied name".  It immediately advises the user that
    the term used is that supplied or referred to in a communication. Or
    even simpler, most elset users already realize such is the case and no
    defined term is needed.
    >The best advice seems to be always to provide the catalog number and
    >COSPAR id when any possible confusion could occur.
    I view the COSPAR as the definitive identification of an object.  In
    99/00, received several updated elsets where the NORAD number and
    applied name were the same but the COSPARs were different.  In most
    cases the data lines (inclination, mean motion, ect...) were clearly
    _not_ of the same object.
    It is for above I use/suggest an updating TLE routine when a NORAD
    match is found with a newer epoch, the COSPARs (leading zeros inserted
    as needed) are compared.  If discrepancy, a "caution" message is
    with options to either to view the elsets, accept the update(s) or skip
    the item(s).  All this to avoid losing an object to the USSPACECOM black
    hole of re-cataloged items.  :-(
    John Gardner,Jr
    Hoarder of TLEs
    76.98569 W  39.00195 N   62.484m  ASL
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