Another reasonable source of lat.long data is: http://www.mapblast.com I have only checked it for my own site but, from my postal code alone, I get a reasonable set of values. It displays a map and you can move a cursor to refine the location. It does not agree exactly with my GPS-determined postion but it is close enough for all but the most precise postion determinations. BKH Brian K. Hunter, Department of Chemistry Professor Queen's University bkh@chem.queensu.ca Kingston, Ontario (613)-533-2620 Canada K7L 3N6 44 14' N 76 30' W