RE: Make love, not flame war

From: Peter D. (
Date: Tue Feb 10 2009 - 04:39:45 UTC

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    Hi to all,
    I am lurker on  this list, who only uses the naked eye for satellite
    observing as it has always been an interest of  mine ever since I was
    dragged outside, at the tender age of five, to see the Sputnik passing over.
    I totally agree with Marco that this list has always remained professional
    and I can't help feeling that the comments made by John Locker were just a
    bit of a lark that obviously worked too well.!!!
    Let's just get back to observing satellites with what ever we may use.
    All the very best & clear skies to all.
    Peter D
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Marco Langbroek [] 
    Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 6:37 PM
    To: satelliet lijst (SeeSat)
    Subject: Make love, not flame war
    This list always stood out from the typical mailing list by the virtual
    of flame-wars (a.o. thanks to Ted's strict moderation). So it is with some 
    amazement that I noted the last few days.
    My personal 2 euro-cents:
    a) I know, from frequent private communications, that John loves 
    tongue-in-cheeck comments. When I read the whole list exchange about "real" 
    observers, there was no doubt in my mind that it was all in jest.
    b) I know, by experience with the press, that journalist pick out the best,
    strongly sounding statements. A news item usually has little room for
    nuances, a 
    quote of a few lines will usually focus on the bold statement. You should
    be careful to judge someone solely by the way he or she is quoted in the
    So IMHO this all indeed is an unfortunate mishap in which an unnuanced news
    quote and a tongue-in-cheek series of exchanges on the list triggered by it,
    plus an unusually strong discussion on an entirely other subject
    (identifiers in 
    subject lines) being linked to it, started to lead its own life.
    I feel we now all need to take a step back and let the dust settle, before
    starts to irreparably damage our group relations.
    - Marco
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