Re: OT: older software in win environment

From: David Tiller (dtiller@captechconsulting.com)
Date: Wed Dec 25 2013 - 12:26:28 UTC

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    The real answer would be to write our tools in a non-OS specific manner. 
    
    Java, Python, and Ruby come to mind. 
    
    On Dec 25, 2013, at 1:23, "wkitty42@gmail.com" <wkitty42@gmail.com> wrote:
    
    > On 12/24/2013 11:16 PM, daniel crawford wrote:
    >> I have cheated with respect to making things 'work'.  Hardware is fairly
    >> inexpensive if you wish to run XP.  I purchased both a desktop and laptop today
    >> for my children for about $250 - each came with XP licenses.
    > 
    > that's a good thing... in a limited fashion ;)
    > 
    >> I reinstalled both of the machines with W7 because for the most part, I can get
    >> things to work natively or with a couple of tweaks in 'compatibility' mode.
    >> 
    >> For the programs that I just cannot get to work under W7 - I virtualize an
    >> instance of the needed OS.
    > 
    > one might check out ubuntu... i've recently upgraded my father from vista 64 
    > (which was rebooting spontaneously more and more over recent times) to kubuntu 
    > 12.03... the basic interface wasn't all that much different and for those 
    > winwhatever programs he required, we simply installed WINE (acronym for WINE Is 
    > Not an Emulator) and then installed those win-based programs under it... 
    > converting his existing firefox and thunderbird installations was not hard to 
    > handle and his other programs like PAF (genealogy) and Orbitron (satellite 
    > tracking) were basically no-brainers... installing programs under WINE allows 
    > one to choose one of several winwhatever versions... plus there's no costly 
    > licensing mess to deal with... total cost? $0 on his existing equipment...
    > 
    >> XP is going away.  Right now Microsoft support is *ALMOST* non existent for the
    >> OS.  We must adapt.
    > 
    > agreed... and that does not restrict us to running m$ operating systems ;)
    > 
    >> The answer is to ask the developers to make the tools available for the current
    >> Operating Systems.  It isn't going to happen in many cases so you either have to
    >> stay on XP (or whatever platform running) or adapt.  My adaption was to make
    >> some Virtual Machines specific for the tools.  It is a pain in the rear - but it
    >> works.
    > 
    > one does what one has to :)  i have not played with VM tech even though i have 
    > several licenses to a few of them... some things are just more important and 
    > desirable... for 90% of my tasks, that entails real hardware instead of virtual 
    > hardware but each has their own needs and desires ;)
    > 
    >> There are many free solutions to create virtual machines for almost any
    >> operating system.   They are pretty easy to configure too, and as long as you
    >> own the the OS you would be installing, you would be legal too.
    > 
    > agreed 100% :)
    > 
    >> Feel free to contact me offline if you have any specific questions on
    >> virtualization.
    > 
    > we (meaning my location) may very well do that at some time O:)
    > 
    > thanks for your informative post! and happy holidays to you and yours :)
    > 
    >> -Daniel Crawford
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >> On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:38 PM, wkitty42@gmail.com <mailto:wkitty42@gmail.com>
    >> <wkitty42@gmail.com <mailto:wkitty42@gmail.com>> wrote:
    >> 
    >>    On 12/23/2013 7:19 AM, Greg Roberts wrote:
    >>> (4) A little OT but see its being discussed at the moment. My new laptop
    >>> runs Windows 8 and I am the administrator but it refuses to even look at
    >>> various software I wrote using Power Basic - possibly because Windows 8 is 64
    >>> bit and Power Basic (because of its age! ) probably a lot less. Any clues as
    >>> to how this problem can be solved ?  The software runs under windows XP with
    >>> no problems. Its not serious as Im quite happy to continue runing XP on some
    >>> of my PC's -- one is still running Dos 6.5!
    >> 
    >>    assuming that w7 and w8 are (kind of) like Vista, you may be able to right click
    >>    on the binary for those programs and set the compatibility to XP so they will
    >>    run in an XP environment...
    >> 
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