Re: OT: older software in win environment

From: wkitty42@gmail.com
Date: Wed Dec 25 2013 - 06:22:41 UTC

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    On 12/24/2013 11:16 PM, daniel crawford wrote:
    > I have cheated with respect to making things 'work'.  Hardware is fairly
    > inexpensive if you wish to run XP.  I purchased both a desktop and laptop today
    > for my children for about $250 - each came with XP licenses.
    
    that's a good thing... in a limited fashion ;)
    
    > I reinstalled both of the machines with W7 because for the most part, I can get
    > things to work natively or with a couple of tweaks in 'compatibility' mode.
    >
    > For the programs that I just cannot get to work under W7 - I virtualize an
    > instance of the needed OS.
    
    one might check out ubuntu... i've recently upgraded my father from vista 64 
    (which was rebooting spontaneously more and more over recent times) to kubuntu 
    12.03... the basic interface wasn't all that much different and for those 
    winwhatever programs he required, we simply installed WINE (acronym for WINE Is 
    Not an Emulator) and then installed those win-based programs under it... 
    converting his existing firefox and thunderbird installations was not hard to 
    handle and his other programs like PAF (genealogy) and Orbitron (satellite 
    tracking) were basically no-brainers... installing programs under WINE allows 
    one to choose one of several winwhatever versions... plus there's no costly 
    licensing mess to deal with... total cost? $0 on his existing equipment...
    
    > XP is going away.  Right now Microsoft support is *ALMOST* non existent for the
    > OS.  We must adapt.
    
    agreed... and that does not restrict us to running m$ operating systems ;)
    
    > The answer is to ask the developers to make the tools available for the current
    > Operating Systems.  It isn't going to happen in many cases so you either have to
    > stay on XP (or whatever platform running) or adapt.  My adaption was to make
    > some Virtual Machines specific for the tools.  It is a pain in the rear - but it
    > works.
    
    one does what one has to :)  i have not played with VM tech even though i have 
    several licenses to a few of them... some things are just more important and 
    desirable... for 90% of my tasks, that entails real hardware instead of virtual 
    hardware but each has their own needs and desires ;)
    
    > There are many free solutions to create virtual machines for almost any
    > operating system.   They are pretty easy to configure too, and as long as you
    > own the the OS you would be installing, you would be legal too.
    
    agreed 100% :)
    
    > Feel free to contact me offline if you have any specific questions on
    > virtualization.
    
    we (meaning my location) may very well do that at some time O:)
    
    thanks for your informative post! and happy holidays to you and yours :)
    
    > -Daniel Crawford
    >
    >
    >
    > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:38 PM, wkitty42@gmail.com <mailto:wkitty42@gmail.com>
    > <wkitty42@gmail.com <mailto:wkitty42@gmail.com>> wrote:
    >
    >     On 12/23/2013 7:19 AM, Greg Roberts wrote:
    >      > (4) A little OT but see its being discussed at the moment. My new laptop
    >      > runs Windows 8 and I am the administrator but it refuses to even look at
    >      > various software I wrote using Power Basic - possibly because Windows 8 is 64
    >      > bit and Power Basic (because of its age! ) probably a lot less. Any clues as
    >      > to how this problem can be solved ?  The software runs under windows XP with
    >      > no problems. Its not serious as Im quite happy to continue runing XP on some
    >      > of my PC's -- one is still running Dos 6.5!
    >
    >     assuming that w7 and w8 are (kind of) like Vista, you may be able to right click
    >     on the binary for those programs and set the compatibility to XP so they will
    >     run in an XP environment...
    >
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