Re: unknown NORAD numbers?

From: wkitty42@gmail.com
Date: Tue Dec 17 2013 - 01:33:15 UTC

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    On 12/15/2013 7:41 PM, Jonathan McDowell wrote:
    > As far as I know, there *is* no 5th stage for the PSLV launch. But
    
    :oops: i totally missed "5th stage" in that reply... i glossed over it as "could 
    have been reserved for [unintelligible] of the PSLV rocket"... 
    "[unintelligible]" being some drek that my misfiring neurons generated :?
    
    > perhaps NORAD mistakenly thought there
    > would be. In any case, 39372 has not been assigned.  Sometimes they
    > leave gaps in the catalog for months
    > and then go back and assign them, so I wouldn't hold your breath for
    > seeing 39372 any time soon.
    
    thanks for that information... it kinda tosses a "hummm" into my use of 
    space-track in conjunction with satcat.dat :/
    
    > I agree that 39447 is reserved for 2013-066AH. It is possible that one
    > of the Unisat-5 subsatellites did not yet eject
    > from Unisat-5.
    
    thanks for that... at this time, i have only those two NORAD numbers unaccounted 
    for...
    
    > On 15 December 2013 18:33, wkitty42@gmail.com <wkitty42@gmail.com> wrote:
    >> On 12/15/2013 3:57 PM, Leo Barhorst wrote:
    >>> 39372 as well 39447 have no entry in the SpaceTrack catalog.
    >>
    >> yes, exactly... that was one of the first places i checked but then i looked
    >> elsewhere with no satisfaction...
    >>
    >> i did start to post the other day about a whole block of similar entities but
    >> before i was able to, space-track filled them in so i held off... and yes, i
    >> know it is the weekend so not much is being done ;)
    >>
    >>> 39372 could have been reserved for the 5th stage of the PSLV rocket but not
    >>> been catalogued.
    >>
    >> my thoughts as well...
    >>
    >>> 39447 does indeed fit in on the place where 2013-66 AH would be.
    >>
    >> and this, too... i was hoping that there might have been some information
    >> already available but then i stop and think about those designations being known
    >> as NORAD catalog numbers and i have to stop for a minute and consider the aspect
    >> of the assigning entity...
    >>
    >> it has been much too long since i operated mainly based on COSPAR numbers so
    >> that was not really much of a consideration but i guess maybe i should get more
    >> up to date on their assignment authority and where that information can be
    >> acquired ;)
    >>
    >>> Regards,
    >>> Leo Barhorst
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
    >>> From: wkitty42@gmail.com
    >>> Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:27 PM
    >>> To: seesat-l@satobs.org
    >>> Subject: unknown NORAD numbers?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> can anyone say what the following NORAD numbers are allocated for?
    >>>
    >>> 39372
    >>> 39447
    >>>
    >>> 39372 appears to possibly be part C of 2013-060 launched on 5 Nov 2013 but i
    >>> cannot find any listings for it at all...
    >>>
    >>> 39447 appears to possibly be part AH of 2013-066 launched on 21 Nov 2013...
    >>> i
    >>> cannot find any entries for it either but it is falls right in place where
    >>> 2013-066AH would be listed from the Dnepr launch...
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> additionally, does anyone maintain an accessible satcat style listing of the
    >>> 90000 series? i have something based on dr jonathan's satcat format but i
    >>> don't
    >>> know what happened to entries that are not listed any more... i've simply
    >>> listed
    >>> them as "No longer listed" in the "In xxxxxxx orbit" field (#7?) but i'd
    >>> rather
    >>> list a pointer to their actual NORAD or COSPAR number... my listing has been
    >>> roughly updated from the classfd tles so i've not really ever had a lot to
    >>> go on
    >>> for these entities...
    >>>
    >>> i may be contacted off list concerning this if desired...
    >>>
    >>
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