Re: unknown NORAD numbers?

From: Jonathan McDowell (
Date: Mon Dec 16 2013 - 00:41:46 UTC

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    As far as I know, there *is* no 5th stage for the PSLV launch. But
    perhaps NORAD mistakenly thought there
    would be. In any case, 39372 has not been assigned.  Sometimes they
    leave gaps in the catalog for months
    and then go back and assign them, so I wouldn't hold your breath for
    seeing 39372 any time soon.
    I agree that 39447 is reserved for 2013-066AH. It is possible that one
    of the Unisat-5 subsatellites did not yet eject
    from Unisat-5.
    On 15 December 2013 18:33, <> wrote:
    > On 12/15/2013 3:57 PM, Leo Barhorst wrote:
    >> 39372 as well 39447 have no entry in the SpaceTrack catalog.
    > yes, exactly... that was one of the first places i checked but then i looked
    > elsewhere with no satisfaction...
    > i did start to post the other day about a whole block of similar entities but
    > before i was able to, space-track filled them in so i held off... and yes, i
    > know it is the weekend so not much is being done ;)
    >> 39372 could have been reserved for the 5th stage of the PSLV rocket but not
    >> been catalogued.
    > my thoughts as well...
    >> 39447 does indeed fit in on the place where 2013-66 AH would be.
    > and this, too... i was hoping that there might have been some information
    > already available but then i stop and think about those designations being known
    > as NORAD catalog numbers and i have to stop for a minute and consider the aspect
    > of the assigning entity...
    > it has been much too long since i operated mainly based on COSPAR numbers so
    > that was not really much of a consideration but i guess maybe i should get more
    > up to date on their assignment authority and where that information can be
    > acquired ;)
    >> Regards,
    >> Leo Barhorst
    >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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    >> Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:27 PM
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    >> Subject: unknown NORAD numbers?
    >> can anyone say what the following NORAD numbers are allocated for?
    >> 39372
    >> 39447
    >> 39372 appears to possibly be part C of 2013-060 launched on 5 Nov 2013 but i
    >> cannot find any listings for it at all...
    >> 39447 appears to possibly be part AH of 2013-066 launched on 21 Nov 2013...
    >> i
    >> cannot find any entries for it either but it is falls right in place where
    >> 2013-066AH would be listed from the Dnepr launch...
    >> additionally, does anyone maintain an accessible satcat style listing of the
    >> 90000 series? i have something based on dr jonathan's satcat format but i
    >> don't
    >> know what happened to entries that are not listed any more... i've simply
    >> listed
    >> them as "No longer listed" in the "In xxxxxxx orbit" field (#7?) but i'd
    >> rather
    >> list a pointer to their actual NORAD or COSPAR number... my listing has been
    >> roughly updated from the classfd tles so i've not really ever had a lot to
    >> go on
    >> for these entities...
    >> i may be contacted off list concerning this if desired...
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