Re: Newcomer with unidentified obs from France

From: Tony Beresford (aberesford@iprimus.com.au)
Date: Fri Dec 22 2000 - 23:48:31 PST

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    At 04:03 23/12/00 , Patrick JL wrote:
    >Hi everyone !
    >
    >On August 24, 2000, we were my son and I plus a friend of him, observing
    >planets at approx 02:25 UTC.
    >Coming up from the South to near zenith, Charles first saw THREE satellite
    >like bright objects, flying as an isocele triangle, sharp angle forward.
    >Height of triangle : about 2 degrees. Sky visible inside the triangle with
    >binoculars. Constant lights mag -2. Disappeared N-NE behind trees.
    >Similar observation of three objects made by hundreds people in Paris
    >beginning (10 th ?) of August when watching outdoor movie inside City of
    >Science.
    Patrick, as Jay respler has already stated what you saw was a NOSS
    cluster, NOSS 2-2 in particular, as shown by this fragment of 
    predictions for your location , produced by the quicksat prediction programme
    
      48.067  -4.133  100.   Patrick                  2000 20.0 12 F F T F T
    ***  2000 Aug  24  Thu morning  *** Times are AM UT   ***  1941  350
     
     H  M  S  Tim Al Azi C Dir  Mag Dys F  Hgt Shd  Rng  EW Phs  R A   Dec
     
    21799 NOSS 2-2 (C)   3.0             4.4 c 4.0 
     2 21 44   .2 52 202   343  4.7  39 1 1012 215 1237 1.1  33 2354  11.4
     2 22 35   .2 67 189   331  4.5  39 1 1017 396 1091 1.2  49  034  25.2
     2 23 27   .2 79 130 C 272  4.6  39 1 1023 551 1040 1.2  69  135  40.3
     2 24 18   .2 68  66   210  5.0  39 1 1029 683 1098 1.1  88  3 7  52.0
     2 25 10   .2 53  53   197  5.5  39 2 1036 794 1250  .9 105  457  56.7
     2 26  1   .2 41  48   193  6.2  39 2 1042 885 1467  .7 117  628  55.5
     2 26 53   .2 32  46   192  6.9  39 2 1049 957 1725  .6 127  728  52.0
     2 27 45   .2 24  44   182  7.7  39 2 10561012 2007  .6 134  8 7  48.0
     2 28 36   .2 19  43   185  8.5  39 2 10631049 2304  .5 140  834  44.3
     2 29 28   .2 14  43   184  9.3  39 2 10711070 2611  .5 145  853  41.0
     
    If you connect to www.heavens-above.com set the prediction position
    to your location, you can get current predictions for your location
    for any of the NOSS 2 clusters that maybe making visible passes.
    The NOSS 2-n satellites are mainly binocular objects rather than naked eye,
    and nobody outside the security "barriers" has produced a reason why they
    are sometimes so bright that is convincing.
    The earlier NOSS 1- series are fainter.
    The Cluster II satellites are a lot fainter, a possible problem for
    those astronomers looking for Near Earth asteroids using 20-60 cm telescopes
    and CCDs. They are around mag 15 when observable at the moment.
    Tony Beresford
    -34.9638, 138.6333E
    
    
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