My wife, daughter and I watched for the HST last night, and while we failed to observe the HST, (!?!) we did see the Orbiter following along 5-6 min. later, though a little lower in the sky. Which brings to mind a question that has been bugging me for a while. On any given evening, It is often possible for us to observe several sats with predicted magnitudes as low as 4.2 or 4.3, often with the naked eye, while other sats with predicted magnitudes as bright as 3.1 are simply not to be found, even with binocs. Any clues? Tom Troszak, Asheville, NC, USA 35.601 N, -82.554 W elevation 2,300 ft. http:www.bullhammer.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe from SeeSat-L by sending a message with 'unsubscribe' in the SUBJECT to SeeSat-L-request@lists.satellite.eu.org http://www2.satellite.eu.org/seesat/seesatindex.html