Re: subscribe
Heikki Lampinen (heilam@kolumbus.fi)
Sun, 27 Dec 1998 17:32:07 +0200
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>Subject: Re: subscribe
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>2. Important Guidelines:
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>c. Discussions about any aspect of visual (!) satellite observing
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>d. Please AVOID:
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>- reporting too many 'I saw this satellite' messages without any
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>*is* bright. But that's no longer news. Exceptional MIR and
>Iridium observations are welcome though. What is added value?
>(Flash) Timings, positions of satellites in the night-sky, seeing
>satellites under difficult/exceptional circumstances (e.g. first
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