[Fwd: Satellite Visibility]

William Blair (wbblair@worldnet.att.net)
Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:16:31 -0700

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Subject: Satellite Visibility
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 09:39:51 -0700
From: "Shouldice, David" <david.shouldice@cobe.com>
Reply-To: csas@lists.sni.net
To: "'csas@lists.sni.net'" <csas@lists.sni.net>

Neil

Once long ago I worked on a Geosynchronous satellite called Scatha (launched
in '79). I noticed that it was included in the data base for "home Planet",
but was missing from the GSOC page (Perhaps they do not include
Geosynchronous types). The satellite does not sit in one spot, but drifts in
a figure 8 through the sky. 
Does anyone know where I could find out if this was visible, even in my
telescope, and also how to find it. 
I have heard of others finding Geosynchronous satellites, but don't know
how.

Help, Ideas??
I'd like to see my baby.

David

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David Shouldice
david.shouldice@cobe.com
303-231-4061

> ----------
> From: 	CS Neil Myers[SMTP:s.n.myers@pcisys.net]
> Reply To: 	csas@lists.sni.net
> Sent: 	Friday, December 11, 1998 8:51 AM
> To: 	CSAS
> Subject: 	Re: Where was the space station this morning?
> 
> I didn't try to see it this morning, but there could be several reasons.
> Most likely the Gazette got something wrong (sorry, couldn't resist!). Or,
> I know that Endeavor did boost the orbit altitude a bit on Wednesday. It
> usually takes some time before such maneuvers get reflected in the orbital
> elements, since they are based upon multiple observations of the vehicle.
> I'm guessing that the prediction was made using an orbital element set
> that was out of date. I've noticed in previous Shuttle and Shuttle/MIR
> missions that the elsets change pretty regularly and it's often tough to
> get data current enough to be helpful.
> 
> BTW, the GSOC Satellite Visibility page has been updated. They now include
> the STS-88/ISS mission as well as MIR, Iridium flares , and any other
> satellites you'd like to find. They've changed the real-time image on the
> page from MIR to the ISS, so it looks like it'll be there from now on.
> They've also added a simple Java planisphere-type applet. Not too
> sophisticated , but interesting. See http://www2.gsoc.dlr.de/satvis 
> 
>
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