In message <1.5.4.16.19971204152300.2caf596c@main.jetnet.ab.ca>, finn@main.jetnet.ab.ca writes >I enjoy reading the various posts about objects who's orbits are about to >decay to a point of re-entry. I know there are various elements that effect >when an object will re-enter but is there a specific or rough altitude at >which an object will actually re-enter the atmosphere? I think the usual convention is to take an altitude of 90-100 km as the critical one, at least for an object in near-circular orbit - as most are by the time they are on the verge of re-entry. The luminous firball event which may result probably continues on a gently falling trajectory to lower altitudes - perhaps (I'm guessing here!) to 50 km or lower. Some objects, however, may begin to "burn up" but then survive temporarily as they climb away from their low-point. For example, an object in a circular inclined orbit will experience the strongest drag as it moves closest to the surface as it crosses over the equator. One exception to the 90-100 km rule concerns highly eccentric objects whose perigees are forced down by gravitational perturbations. Such an object may survive for many revolutions with a perigee below 100 km, just as is happenning now for Cosmos 1172 whose perigee (above a spherical Earth, see below) has been under 100 km for the past 20 days. The latest two elsets for this are: Cosmos 1172 32179 x 69 km 1 11758U 80028A 97337.93326027 -.00500496 -16114-4 -43290-4 0 1595 2 11758 61.8391 124.6147 7134839 246.2321 28.0563 2.57221836129352 Cosmos 1172 31808 x 88 km 1 11758U 80028A 97338.31842081 .02340191 00000-0 64161-3 0 1619 2 11758 61.8206 124.6189 7103544 246.2931 27.7582 2.60269106129778 I don't really believe the 69 km perigee and the negative drag term for the first of these. In any case, the perigee height here is relative to a spherical Earth of radius 6378 km and, with perigee deep in the southern hemisphere of an oblate Earth, the true height of perigee above sea-level is somewhat greater. Depending on the strength of the object, the stresses it experiences near perigee may cause it to "burn up" well before it is able to circularise its orbit by decreasing its apogee. In fact, given the rate at which the perigee of Cosmos 1172 has been plunging in recent weeks, this could happen at any time (if it hasn't already). Alan -- Alan Pickup | COSPAR site 2707: 55d53m48.7s N 3d11m51.2s W 156m asl Edinburgh | Home: alan@wingar.demon.co.uk +44 (0)131 477 9144 Scotland | SatEvo satellite page: http://www.wingar.demon.co.uk/satevo/