Using an elset from the Long March launch on 1 Sep 97, the iridium elset was adjusted to the launch time of 7:16 UT on 8 Dec 97. This yields the following elset for your viewing pleasure: Iridium, Long March 2C/SD, 8 Dec 97 0716 UT 1 90000U 970xxA 97343.67171242 .00006239 00000-0 81387-3 0 48 2 90000 86.3360 121.1177 0007549 335.3421 252.4320 14.80383992 200 Thanks to Jeff and Stu for the Taiyuan location. Guess I should have tried a web search before asking! Ron lee