I saw my first daytime Iridium flare today. The method of staking out sight lines the night before, using landmarks such as tree tops, really works. Having my backyard conveniently on the flare centerline helped a bit, too. :-) A slightly modified version of the Iridflar output: Ir Date Time Azm El Range SunEl M FlrAng Mag SMag --------------------------------------------------------------- 18 97-12-01 16:22:46 PST 263 26 1503 4.3 F 0.01 -3.8 -6.1 I decided to wimp out and use 7x50's, but I think I could have seen the flare without them. I'll have to try more of these daytime flares. The nighttime ones are getting pretty scarce, at least at my latitude. If you don't use Rob Matson's Iridflar, you can stop reading now. I run Iridium flare predictions for several locations in the San Francisco bay area, and if I see a good flare coming up I post a heads-up to a local astronomy discussion group. A good portion of the subscribers like watching the flares, but use platforms such as Macs or Unix systems which currently lack an Iridium flare prediction program, so I run predictions for them. To make it easier to run batches of predictions, I use an MS-DOS BAT file and a text editor to do all of the following in a WIN 95 DOS session in background: 1) Edit each Iridflar config file (one for each location) using an automated macro to insert today's date and time. 2) Invoke a DOS TSR program to 'stuff' the keyboard with the appropriate number of carriage returns, and an 'n' to supply the 'Another calculation?' prompt. 3) Run Iridflar, after stuffing the keyboard buffer. 4) Repeat steps 1-3 for each location. I do predictions for six locations, and the BAT file does all of them for me each time it's run. 5) Use the DOS copy command to create a single Iridflar output file. 6) Edit the output file with a text editor macro to create an HTML document, converting the lat/long to URL's to link to both the Tiger Map Server (great detail, but slow) and the Xerox Parc map server (not much detail, but faster). I've already posted an earlier version of this macro to Seesat-L. 7) Issue a 'START C:\IRIDMAP.HTM' command as the last step. This activates my browser and brings up the Iridflar web page I just created. I can then click on the flares that look good, see the locations of the centerlines displayed on the map, and send off predictions saying that cities a, b, c, etc. are going to be on the centerline. The keyboard stuffer program is available at www.shareware.com if you do a keyword search for 'stuff310.zip' in the DOS category. Here's an example of how I use it, just before calling Iridflar: stuffit +0 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 13 P30,0,160,"calculation?" +1 13 >nul The above two lines are broken up here, but are one continuous line in the BAT file. The +0 clears the keyboard buffer. Each 13 represents a carriage return in hex, and the P30... parameters tell Stuffit to wait for a prompt with "calculation?" in it, and press enter when it shows up, after pausing for a second. The text editor macros I have won't work unless you have the Kedit editor, a commercial (not shareware) product. Craig Cholar 3432P@VM1.CC.NPS.NAVY.MIL Marina, California 36 41 10.3N, 121 48 17.9W (36.6862, -121.8050) UTC -8