Re: old article - Spy satellites on demand

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    Members may find this article informing:
    U.S. general sees war in space
    Thu 16 October, 2003
    By Tabassum Zakaria
    NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) - Space may become a war zone in the
    not-too-distant future, a senior U.S. military officer has said, hours
    after China became only the third country after the United States and
    former Soviet Union to put a man in space.
    "In my view it will not be long before space becomes a battleground,"
    Lt. Gen. Edward Anderson, deputy commander of U.S. Northern Command,
    said in response to a question at a geospatial intelligence conference
    on Wednesday.
    "Our military forces ... depend very, very heavily on space
    capabilities, and so that is a statement of the obvious to our potential
    threat, whoever that may be," he said.
    "They can see that one of the ways that they can certainly diminish our
    capabilities will be to attack the space systems," said Anderson, who
    was formerly with U.S. Space Command.
    "Now how they do that and who that's going to be I can't tell you in
    this audience," he said at the unclassified conference.
    The United States operates spy satellites in space.
    Earlier in the day, Rich Haver, former special assistant for
    intelligence to Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, said he expected
    battles in space within the next two decades.
    "I believe space is the place we will fight in the next 20 years," said
    Haver, now vice president for intelligence strategy at Northrop Grumman
    Mission Systems.
    "There are executive orders that say we don't want to do that. There's
    been a long-standing U.S. policy to try to keep space a peaceful place,
    but ... we have in space assets absolutely essential to the conduct of
    our military operations, absolutely essential to our national security.
    They have been there for many years," he said.
    "When the true history of the Cold War is written and all the classified
    items are finally unclassified, I believe that historians will note that
    it was in space that a significant degree of this country's ability to
    win the Cold War was embedded," Haver said.
    Responding to a question about the implications of China sending a man
    into space this week, Haver said: "I think the Chinese are telling us
    they're there, and I think if we ever wind up in a confrontation again
    with any one of the major powers who has a space capability we will find
    space is a battleground."
    Chinese "taikonaut" Yang Liwei touched down in the grasslands of Inner
    Mongolia early on Thursday local time after a 21-hour odyssey that took
    him around the world 14 times.
    Haver added that he was not implying that
    China was the next great competitor or enemy of the United States.
    The ability to launch devices into space is rapidly becoming a
    multinational activity, Haver said.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Graham" <>
    To: <>
    Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 11:57 PM
    Subject: Re: old article - Spy satellites on demand
    > I'm going by what i've read on the web as this article says itself:
    > What these people fail to realize is that there are bad guys out there,"
    > said one senior intelligence official who wants to see some of the
    > ****satellite trackers prosecuted. ***
    > And:
    > Why give more help to our enemies overseas through these
    > websites?" said one congressional staffer who asked that her name not be
    > used in this report. "But the anger of the U.S. intelligence community is
    > good sign."
    > I Believe tracking has an important role to play in keeping an eye on ALL
    > the countries who launch military sats.I think to blindly say :go ahead
    > and up any weapon into space is nothing short of alarming.America is about
    > to spend
    > billions on space warfare capability,Australia signed up to the "defence
    > sheild"
    > program about six weeks ago. If you saw the recent Lockheed Martin post i
    > sent
    > Lockheed themselves were bosting about their new laser weapon their
    > developing.
    > This can only means Russia,China and North Korea will be excelerating
    > space
    > program and developing weapons in space.
    > Ifs's only a few years for geo sats with warheads,except to see lots of
    > military
    > launches over the next five years as they test these weapons.
    > Don't take my word for theirs plenty of info on it on the web,keep
    > the space industries webpages,there you'll find a hint of what their up
    > regards Graham
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Ted Molczan" <>
    > To: "SeeSat-L" <>
    > Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 11:32 PM
    > Subject: RE: old article - Spy satellites on demand
    > > Graham wrote:
    > >
    > > > Expect them to come aknockin.!
    > > >
    > > >  "We know China and Russia are working on lasers that can
    > > > blind our satellites. By publicly broadcasting their
    > > > location, we make their job easy -- point and shoot.
    > >
    > > Any country having the resources to pursue such a program, would find it
    > > relatively easy to develop an independent satellite tracking capability.
    > t is
    > > well known that Russia has a robust satellite tracking capability. I do
    > not know
    > > about China, but satellite tracking is well within its technological
    > grasp.
    > > Certainly, I can not imagine any country making the success of such a
    > program
    > > dependent upon sources of orbital data not under its control, much less
    > > hobbyists.
    > >
    > >
    > > > "Other satellite issues are equally troubling. For example, it
    > > > is known that the Milstar, the main U.S. battlefield
    > > > coordinating satellite, was knocked out for three hours in a
    > > > Y2K glitch. Without the Milstar, the U.S. military is
    > > > essentially blind on the battlefield. Much of the satellite
    > > > data used to fight the Gulf War was coordinated through the
    > > > Australia-based facilities at Pine Gap. "
    > >
    > > A Y2K glitch has nothing to do with the availability of orbital
    > >
    > > The author of the article in question, Anthony LoBaido, wrote an opinion
    > piece
    > > dated 2001 Sep 13, in which he speculated about "filthy Jay Leno
    > monologues" and
    > > other possible causes of the 9-11 tragedy:
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > excerpts:
    > >
    > > "Is New York the head of the "Great Satan"? All that is evil in the
    > can be
    > > found in New York: MTV, the United Nations, the U.N. abortion programs,
    > the
    > > Council on Foreign Relations, New Age Church of St. John the Divine,
    > Street
    > > greed, Madison Avenue manipulation and of course more confirmed AIDS
    > than
    > > the rest of America combined. Let's remember the filthy sodomite gay
    > parade last
    > > summer in New York. Let's remember all the New York politicians falling
    > all over
    > > themselves to praise this sick spectacle.
    > >
    > > And let's not forget that New Yorkers elected - by a landslide - the
    > openly
    > > Marxist, treasonous and abortion-mongering, occultic Hillary to a Senate
    > seat.
    > > All while fully knowing what she was all about."
    > >
    > > "Can the remnant in America help but honestly ask themselves: Is this
    > > fulfillment of Revelation chapters 17 and 18 (Mystery Babylon) or has
    > raised
    > > up Shiite Islam as a sword against America?"
    > >
    > > Ted Molczan
    > >
    > >
    > >
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