On Fri, 29 Aug 1997, Joe Dellinger wrote: > Vanguard 1 sounds hard to show to a crowd, I'm afraid. > > What is the oldest satellite currently in orbit that can reach > NAKED EYE visibility? How about the oldest that can become bright enough > to show people naked-eye from a suburban location, say 3rd magnitude? I make up VISUAL.TXT to include all naked eye sats brighter than about mag 4.0. The oldest on the list is 694, 63 47A, Atlas Centaur 2. Jay Respler -- Details of how to get on the Satellite Observer Mail List, elements, prediction programs and other satellite information, at the Visual Satellite Observers Home Page: http://www2.plasma.mpe-garching.mpg.de/sat/satintro.html -- JRespler@InJersey.com Satellite Tracker * Early Typewriter Collector Freehold, New Jersey