Bjoern Gimle writes: > I have your observation at az. 96.7, el. 43.2 > My best candidate is culminating at 100.4, 43.9 at 08:56:25, > angle 88 (103 for C.1908), passing 0.5 degrees above the point > 2 seconds after C.1908, at a speed of 41% of C.1908's : > NOAA 3 Delta fragment DC, 2.0 sq.m. Magnitude +9.2 (SkyMap) > 1 7138U 73086DC 95191.90491311 -.00000035 +00000-0 +10000-3 0 08358 > 2 7138 102.5374 163.6245 0054349 328.8599 030.9248 12.31793302974837 > #07857 ran 2 degrees above DMSP at 119 % speed, in parallell. > Magnitude +4.3 (SkyMap). I can't find a second object. > Landsat 1 Delta fragment AD, 9 sq.m > 1 7857U 72058AD 95192.17802737 +.00000098 +00000-0 +30857-4 0 04382 > 2 7857 098.4489 260.2684 0145453 142.4917 218.6536 14.54721471062330 Rainer Kracht writes (despite e-mail difficulties): > This strober was a satellite: > DELTA 1 DEB rcs = 2.0 > 1 7138U 73086DC 95193.93528363 -.00000035 +00000-0 +10000-3 0 0816 > 2 7138 102.5381 165.6820 0054327 325.3028 034.4492 12.3179339197508 > From my experience in identifying unknown satellites, I'm quite sure > that you saw 73-86DC, but the last word remains for you, the observer. Thanks much to both of you for identifying these two. The motion of each very satisfactorily matches my recollection and my record. Pretty blinkin' bright (must have been at least mag 6 or so) for a "DC" and an "AD" fragment! Allen Thomson's thesis that anything beyond "K" can be "ignored" is very strong, but I guess it was never intended to be perfect (Newton got corrected by that upstart Einstein). Cheers. Walter Nissen dk058@cleveland.freenet.edu 216-243-4980 --- A parent is a terrible thing to waste.