RE: Satobs site 2751 2004 Apr 14

From: Ted Molczan (molczan@rogers.com)
Date: Thu Apr 15 2004 - 11:02:21 EDT

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    Bruce MacDonald wrote:
    
    > I am unsure about my accuracy for the two obs of Lacrosse 3; 
    > ObsReduce gave the path as being outside my first pair of 
    > stars.  I see that Ted posted new elements for this sat, and 
    > it could be that I was using out of date elements.  Would 
    > someone please advise?
    
    You reduced the wrong star-pair, but I believe I can see how you may have become
    confused.
    
    Your star-pair is part of a small asterism of 4 stars. Less than 2 deg away,
    there is a nearly identical looking asterism. To make matters worse, both were
    oriented almost identically in your FOV.
    
    To guard against this type of error, always look at the Observation-Prediction
    differences displayed by ObsReduce after each reduction. It displays both the
    time difference and the cross-track difference. 
    
    The cross-track difference takes into Earth's rotation during the interval of
    the time difference, so it should normally be a small value, < 0.1 deg or so,
    assuming your observation was reasonably accurate, and your reduction correct.
    
    Reducing the incorrect correct star-pair in question, results in a cross-track
    difference of about 0.9 deg, relative most of the elsets issued over the past
    few months - a strong clue that the wrong pair had been reduced.
    
    Reducing the correct stars, ObsReduce reports:
    
    25017 97 064A   2751 F 20040414204938790 17 25 0738144+385474 28 S
    
    This was within 0.020 deg cross-track and 0.1 s early, relative may epoch
    04105.37945643 elset.
    
    Your second point also is quite a bit off - mainly in time - about 1.9 s late.
    The cause is less obvious. Perhaps a time reduction error. I do see an
    alternative star-pair, that agrees much better in time, but the stars are more
    than twice as far apart, and somewhat fainter than those you reduced. 
    
    Ted Molczan
    
    
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