> The link below is for a newsgroup that tracks, posts TLE etc for > classified sats. > > Though I appreciate the information, that was not my question. I am quite happy with the information that I get here and need not sign up for a "free service" (cough hack, marketing tool ) :) in order to get spam and "classified data" that personally I do not need nor have a legitimate/legal use for. (assumption, btw) Why suggest going around the system instead of explaining why it is this way? (Just my opinion, please don't take it to heart.) > Again, my question was, what are the rules here? > >"On request of several U.S. members of the list, in Sep 2001 the = > moderator(s) > banned positional observations of U.S. military satellites (no specific = > list > set, assumed were all USA-xxx designated birds) as well as TLEs for = > these > satellites. The belief was such postings might be direct help to enemy." > Pretty much the answer I was looking for. I think that I joined the list right after that, or I would have remembered this. Thanks! > > In my opinion, this decision essentially killed SeeSat-L and what's left = > is > a pale shadow of a highly professional forum of the past > Since I joined the list after the "ban", I don't see this as a problem. Also, I have been going through the archives (only have made it through a few years of messages) and I still don't see it as an issue. Perhaps I am wrong, but classified observes/information has not been the focus of this group, right? I personally see this still as a highly professional forum. Again, my opinion, but without reading what I have read here, I would have had a difficult time figuring out how to observe professionaly, for FUN. There is no other motivation that I have, except to look at the stars and to control what I see, and I thank every person reading this for being a part of this PROFESSIONAL community. Saying that this list is not as professional as it used to be is probably insulting to the professionals that are still here. It is to me, and I am not a pro. > And I am writing > this not because I live in Moscow: just because this is true. > See above. I don't think that anybody cares where any of we are except to have accurate coordinates when posting observes. If we all lived in the US, I don't think that much would change concerning lassified information. For me, I'd expect that it would be taken more seriously if we all lived in the US. > To the same logic, now we see NASA banning >announcing shuttle launch times. Why not ban >announcing the flight altogether before the shuttle lifts off >(as my country used to do before 1985)? I couldn't agree more. Either you call it classified and protect the information, or you don't. Most of the people on this list are smart enough to figure out launch windows given enough information. It is frustrating for me to see a thread on this list saying that we should not be discussing certain things, and the next day or so we have predicted times and elsets for the shuttle to take off. The information is protected and perhaps classified, but it seems as though it is not taken seriously. =20 > > Nevertheless I cannot understand why banning reposting of information > published elsewhere previously. > I think the same, but I still see the reason for banning the information. Meaning, I think that if this stuff is truely classified, it shouldn't be posted anywhere. I am just looking for consistancy. Oh yea... This is a mailing list, forgot that consistancy is not possible with so many folks via email... :) Dark and Clear! Daniel ----------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe from SeeSat-L by sending a message with 'unsubscribe' in the SUBJECT to SeeSat-L-request@lists.satellite.eu.org http://www.satellite.eu.org/seesat/seesatindex.html
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